MVC Games Week 2

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Re: MVC Games Week 2

Postby BuBrave2006 » November 21st, 2022, 7:11 am

Drakey wrote:The same Tulsa team that beat Loyola by 20.


Yes and No. Tulsa got into a little scrap at the end of their second game. One of their starters got suspended for the Murray St game and didn't play. Their best player was also involved and apparently tension carrier over and he also got a technical (from a ref that was trying too hard) in the first minute of the game and his entire game shifted after that. Crazy how different a game/team can be over the course of a couple days in a tournament.

Now this doesn't diminish Murray's victory at all, but its worth pointing out there are a few shades of gray specifically when comparing Murray's game against Tulsa vs Loyola's.

Keep it up Racers.
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Postby Salukimadness86 » November 21st, 2022, 7:48 pm

Kyle_Saluki_17 wrote:I’m really interested in seeing this Missouri State team against SIU. Last few years it seems that Prim was the lone reason SIU couldn’t handle them. He absolutely dominated us. A ton of talent, but no Prim. Can’t wait for that matchup!


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Re: MVC Games Week 2

Postby jsaluki080 » November 22nd, 2022, 2:45 am

Kyle_Saluki_17 wrote:I’m not really sure how it actually compares, but it feels like the non conference so far is going better than last year for the league. Last year just felt like a giant disappointment the entire 2 months, and we still finished 11th as a league. Just curious, does anyone else feel the same way so far? I know there are a ton of games left…


Hard to say. The MVC has picked up a few good wins for sure. ISUb has been a surprise positive.
But, the current rank of the MVC teams as of 11/21 are ...

Drake 46
ISUb 52
SIU 103
Bradley 105
Murray 122
MSU 154
UNI 227
Belmont 237
Valpo 240
ISUr 245
UIC 263 (loyola 266)
Evansville 283

It's early so these rankings are most likely meaningless but still, don't remember ever having so many 200 ranked teams.
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Re: MVC Games Week 2

Postby ValleyFAN » November 22nd, 2022, 8:44 am

jsaluki080 wrote:
Kyle_Saluki_17 wrote:I’m not really sure how it actually compares, but it feels like the non conference so far is going better than last year for the league. Last year just felt like a giant disappointment the entire 2 months, and we still finished 11th as a league. Just curious, does anyone else feel the same way so far? I know there are a ton of games left…


Hard to say. The MVC has picked up a few good wins for sure. ISUb has been a surprise positive.
But, the current rank of the MVC teams as of 11/21 are ...

Drake 46
ISUb 52
SIU 103
Bradley 105
Murray 122
MSU 154
UNI 227
Belmont 237
Valpo 240
ISUr 245
UIC 263 (loyola 266)
Evansville 283

It's early so these rankings are most likely meaningless but still, don't remember ever having so many 200 ranked teams.


What rankings are you looking at? Not questioning, genuinely curious. I know rankings vary based on which source you're looking at.

This is how Kenpom has it right now
1. Drake 72
2. SIU 96
3. Mo State 102
4. Murray State 108
5. Indiana State 119
6. Bradley 121
7 Belmont 139
8. UNI 144
9. Valpo 254
10. Illinois State 256
11. UIC 278
12. Evansville 322

8/12 teams in the Top 150 doesnt seem too bad. The bottom 4 rankings are brutal for the league and need to improve. If Drake, SIU, MO State, Murray, and ISUb continue to perform well in the non con then you could possibly get 5 teams into the Top 100 by the time league play starts. Not saying thats gonna happen but it's a possibility.
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Re: MVC Games Week 2

Postby Kyle_Saluki_17 » November 22nd, 2022, 8:45 am

jsaluki080 wrote:
Kyle_Saluki_17 wrote:I’m not really sure how it actually compares, but it feels like the non conference so far is going better than last year for the league. Last year just felt like a giant disappointment the entire 2 months, and we still finished 11th as a league. Just curious, does anyone else feel the same way so far? I know there are a ton of games left…


Hard to say. The MVC has picked up a few good wins for sure. ISUb has been a surprise positive.
But, the current rank of the MVC teams as of 11/21 are ...

Drake 46
ISUb 52
SIU 103
Bradley 105
Murray 122
MSU 154
UNI 227
Belmont 237
Valpo 240
ISUr 245
UIC 263 (loyola 266)
Evansville 283

It's early so these rankings are most likely meaningless but still, don't remember ever having so many 200 ranked teams.


Keep in mind KenPom is still mostly predictive at this point though. But I agree it is hard to tell.
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Re: MVC Games Week 2

Postby jsaluki080 » November 22nd, 2022, 7:32 pm

What rankings are you looking at? Not questioning, genuinely curious. I know rankings vary based on which source you're looking at.



https://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/nc ... -rankings/

Yeah, I'm a little embarrassed. I should have used KenPom. It's more recognized. I just stumbled upon this one first and ran with it.
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