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Postby FearDaTrees » February 10th, 2014, 8:01 am

I haven't seen anybody post anything on this so I figured I would let people know about it. Rpiforecast.com has created something called the RPI Wizard and it allows you to enter outcomes of a game for your team just to see where the projected RPI would be. I ran a simulation of WSU going undefeated....here are the results.

Wichita St- 30-0 RPI: 5 SOS: 104
It's hard to imagine them going undefeated and only jumping up one spot in the RPI, but the SOS is too low to jump any of the top 5 without a few losses.

http://www.rpiforecast.com/wizard/index.html
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby FearDaTrees » February 10th, 2014, 8:10 am

If Indiana State runs the table in the regular season they would end up with an RPI of 42 and an SOS of 130. I think this has to happen and at least 2 wins in STL to be considered for an at-large bid. Not sure the committee would be willing to put them in the tournament with 3 losses to Wichita though. We may have to beat them in MVC CG to get in. The thing that really sucks, if ISU would have beat SIU in Carbondale, it could be 23-5 with an RPI of 35, which looks much better than 42 when it comes to Selection Sunday. Oh well, gotta keep winning! Go Trees!
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby Ricardo del Rio » February 10th, 2014, 10:58 am

I admire Big Blue, but sometimes the Trees can be inexplicable to me.

As an example, the margin of victory over Drake in Terre Haute.

The Trees gave the Shockers all they wanted and then in the next game, only defeated Little Blue by 4 and the game went down to the wire.
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby isumvc1 » February 10th, 2014, 11:42 am

FearDaTrees wrote:If Indiana State runs the table in the regular season they would end up with an RPI of 42 and an SOS of 130. I think this has to happen and at least 2 wins in STL to be considered for an at-large bid. Not sure the committee would be willing to put them in the tournament with 3 losses to Wichita though. We may have to beat them in MVC CG to get in. The thing that really sucks, if ISU would have beat SIU in Carbondale, it could be 23-5 with an RPI of 35, which looks much better than 42 when it comes to Selection Sunday. Oh well, gotta keep winning! Go Trees!


there is no way, no how, we get an at large bid at this point, our only way in is to beat WSU in St Louis. Otherwise we're NIT bound. And as Ricardo says, we are inexplicable at times, and will continue to be the rest of the season, it may very well start at Bradley Weds. night. We rarely play well at BU, no matter how bad they may be, it's like SIU, no matter how bad they are we can not win at SIU, and we barely beat them at home.
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby tribecalledquest » February 10th, 2014, 11:43 am

Ricardo del Rio wrote:I admire Big Blue, but sometimes the Trees can be inexplicable to me.

As an example, the margin of victory over Drake in Terre Haute.

The Trees gave the Shockers all they wanted and then in the next game, only defeated Little Blue by 4 and the game went down to the wire.


Post Shocker hangover. The amount of energy given and expended when the Shox come to town is greater than when any other team comes to town.
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby Wufan » February 10th, 2014, 11:59 am

isumvc1 wrote:
FearDaTrees wrote:If Indiana State runs the table in the regular season they would end up with an RPI of 42 and an SOS of 130. I think this has to happen and at least 2 wins in STL to be considered for an at-large bid. Not sure the committee would be willing to put them in the tournament with 3 losses to Wichita though. We may have to beat them in MVC CG to get in. The thing that really sucks, if ISU would have beat SIU in Carbondale, it could be 23-5 with an RPI of 35, which looks much better than 42 when it comes to Selection Sunday. Oh well, gotta keep winning! Go Trees!


there is no way, no how, we get an at large bid at this point, our only way in is to beat WSU in St Louis. Otherwise we're NIT bound. And as Ricardo says, we are inexplicable at times, and will continue to be the rest of the season, it may very well start at Bradley Weds. night. We rarely play well at BU, no matter how bad they may be, it's like SIU, no matter how bad they are we can not win at SIU, and we barely beat them at home.


I see winning out to St. Louis finale as putting the Sycamore's on the bubble. There are too many possibilities to say that they are in, but they are right there. The selection committee may not see it that way.
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby isumvc1 » February 10th, 2014, 4:24 pm

Wufan wrote:
isumvc1 wrote:
FearDaTrees wrote:If Indiana State runs the table in the regular season they would end up with an RPI of 42 and an SOS of 130. I think this has to happen and at least 2 wins in STL to be considered for an at-large bid. Not sure the committee would be willing to put them in the tournament with 3 losses to Wichita though. We may have to beat them in MVC CG to get in. The thing that really sucks, if ISU would have beat SIU in Carbondale, it could be 23-5 with an RPI of 35, which looks much better than 42 when it comes to Selection Sunday. Oh well, gotta keep winning! Go Trees!


there is no way, no how, we get an at large bid at this point, our only way in is to beat WSU in St Louis. Otherwise we're NIT bound. And as Ricardo says, we are inexplicable at times, and will continue to be the rest of the season, it may very well start at Bradley Weds. night. We rarely play well at BU, no matter how bad they may be, it's like SIU, no matter how bad they are we can not win at SIU, and we barely beat them at home.


I see winning out to St. Louis finale as putting the Sycamore's on the bubble. There are too many possibilities to say that they are in, but they are right there. The selection committee may not see it that way.


therein lies the problem, winning out to St. Louis finale, if you saw our game vs. Drake you'll understand that the odds of us winning out are about 1%
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby Wufan » February 10th, 2014, 5:30 pm

isumvc1 wrote:therein lies the problem, winning out to St. Louis finale, if you saw our game vs. Drake you'll understand that the odds of us winning out are about 1%


I saw it and I've seen several other ISU games this year. I'm not saying it's likely, but it is possible.
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby FearDaTrees » February 11th, 2014, 7:47 am

Do you think being negative about ISU all season is going to make them win, or something? If we miss a free throw in the first 5 min of the game, you will say our season is over. We were up by like 10 with 2 min to go and they started hitting some 3's. Big deal. Yea, the game was much closer than it should of been, but give DU some credit. They are #1 in the Valley in 3-pt % and that alone can keep them in any game. I think the future is very bright for the Bulldogs. If we win out to the MVC CG, we will be on the bubble. Maybe not on the right side of the bubble, but you have to be in discussion to be selected on Sunday.


I have made it known throughout the year that I don't think Wichita State is a top 10 team in the country, and I'll stand by that, but I read an article yesterday from Joe Lunardi that said the he thinks it's possible the Shockers won't get a one seed with an undefeated season. That would be absolutely ridiculous. I didn't think Gonzaga was a top 10 team last year either, but I thought they still deserved a 1 seed based on their body of work. It turned out, they definitely were not a 1 seed. If the Shockers go undefeated, they 100% deserve to be on the top line come Sunday afternoon.
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Re: RPI Wizard

Postby Cdizzle » February 11th, 2014, 9:27 am

FearDaTrees wrote:I didn't think Gonzaga was a top 10 team last year either, but I thought they still deserved a 1 seed based on their body of work. It turned out, they definitely were not a 1 seed.


This does not make any sense. Do you have any facts to support your claim?
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