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Maniscalco transferring?

Postby bigdawg » March 9th, 2011, 8:20 am

There is some scuttlebutt that Sam will be transferring. If he has graduated and is pursuing a masters degree not offered at Bradley he would be eligible immediately.
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby Khan4Cats » March 9th, 2011, 8:45 am

bigdawg wrote:There is some scuttlebutt that Sam will be transferring. If he has graduated and is pursuing a masters degree not offered at Bradley he would be eligible immediately.


I am not sure Iowa State has any more scholarships....
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby tribecalledquest » March 9th, 2011, 9:41 am

bigdawg wrote:There is some scuttlebutt that Sam will be transferring. If he has graduated and is pursuing a masters degree not offered at Bradley he would be eligible immediately.


He might. Might not. How's that for an answer? :) I think Sam will wait to see who the new coach is before making any decisions.
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby CaseyGarrisonforPrez » March 9th, 2011, 11:27 am

If this plays out like I think it might, Bruce Weber is slimier than I thought. Sam needs to stay at Bradley and finish what he started. Be a man Sam and do the honorable thing.
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby bigdawg » March 9th, 2011, 11:54 am

I wouldn't blame a kid if he wanted to play in the NCAA tourney in his final year and thought this was the only way to accomplish that.
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby bleach » March 9th, 2011, 12:20 pm

A new coach might want to rebuild from scratch as opposed to using leftovers from a failed regime (reguardless of how good they are. Not saying he would run them off but rebuilding usually doesn't involve playing seniors.
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby BradleyBrave » March 9th, 2011, 3:06 pm

The NCAA would have to grant him a special waiver. There's precedent in this case, and it would not bode well for Sammy as far as transferring. He would have to demonstrate that his reasoning for transferring was not because of basketball. It's the NCAA though, so you never know. They could grant him the waiver based on his academic standing, setting a precedent that such waivers could be granted if one excels in the classroom.

From a post on another board -

Here is a long article, but it is relevant to the situation surrounding Sam. The NCAA allows student-athletes to transfer if the have graduated, and if the NCAA deems that the purpose of the transfer is solely to pursue study in a post-graduate field that his University does not offer.

The case profiled here is that of a star quarterback Jeremiah Masoli, who wanted to transfer from Oregon to Mississippi. His waiver (needed for the NCAA to allow such a transfer) was denied by the NCAA because they examined his case and decided his reasons were football related. So all such transfers need to be approved by the NCAA, and there is no guarantee Sam will receive a waiver. We'll have to wait and see.


http://www.aolnews.com/2010/08/31/the-ncaa-got-it-right-masoli-should-be-ineligible-at-ole-miss/

Here's the rule, per the NCAA website -

Graduate Student Eligibility

A student-athlete who is enrolled in a graduate or professional school of the college or university which he or she previously attended as an undergraduate student may participate in intercollegiate athletics, provided he or she has eligibility remaining and is within five calendar years of initial full-time collegiate enrollment for Division I and within the first 10 full-time semesters of collegiate enrollment for Divisions II and III.

Also, a student-athlete who has eligibility remaining and is within the specified 10-semester period may participate while enrolled in a graduate or professional school at a Division II college or university other than the institution at which he or she completed an undergraduate degree.

Finally, a student-athlete who has eligibility remaining and is within the specified five-year period may participate while enrolled in a graduate or professional school at a Division I college or university other than the institution at which he or she completed an undergraduate degree, provided he or she meets the criteria of the one-time transfer exception to the general transfer residence requirement. That exception is as follows:

The student-athlete must be seeking to participate in a sport other than baseball, football, basketball and men's ice hockey, except that a student-athlete who seeks to participate in NCAA Football Championship Subdivision may use this exception only if transferring from a Football Bowl Subdivision program.

The student-athlete may not have transferred previously from another four-year institution unless he or she transferred previously and received an exception to the transfer residence requirement because his or her institution either discontinued the sport or did not sponsor the sport in which the student-athlete is a participant.

The student must have been in good academic standing and eligible to compete had he or she decided to remain at the previous institution.

The student-athlete's previous institution must certify in writing that it has no objection to the student-athlete being granted an exception to the transfer residence requirement.
NOTE: This exception does not apply to a student-athlete who attends a Division III institution for graduate school, unless the student-athlete is attending the same institution at which he or she was an undergraduate.

NOTE: If the student-athlete transfers to the certifying institution from a Division III member institution and meets the above-mentioned conditions, he or she may be eligible to compete but may not receive athletically related financial aid during that year.

Please contact the certifying institution or conference for additional information. You also may contact the NCAA academic and membership affairs staff at 317/917-6222 if you have further questions.


I would say it's 50/50 at this point.
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby BirdmanBB » March 9th, 2011, 3:17 pm

It's clear that Manascalco could fill a need at Illinois, but it would be against the rules for them or any other school to have contact with him right now. So it is all speculation at this point (I would hope).
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby BradleyBrave » March 9th, 2011, 3:43 pm

BirdmanBB wrote:It's clear that Manascalco could fill a need at Illinois, but it would be against the rules for them or any other school to have contact with him right now. So it is all speculation at this point (I would hope).


Non-contact rules didn't prevent Weber from going after Marcus Arnold. I am sure the same things are going on here. It's real easy - Sam and Demetri McCamey are old HS buddies from Chicago. Demetri calls Sam to talk about hoops, and low and behold Bruce Weber is in the room. Bruce tells Demetri 'Tell Sammy hi', and Demetri says 'Here you go coach, tell him yourself', and now they're talking. Happens all the time.
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Re: Maniscalco transferring?

Postby DUBulldog » March 9th, 2011, 3:45 pm

BirdmanBB wrote:It's clear that Manascalco could fill a need at Illinois, but it would be against the rules for them or any other school to have contact with him right now. So it is all speculation at this point (I would hope).


But, is there any rule preventing the student-athlete from contacting another school?
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