The Biggest Loser?

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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby kcmsaluki12 » April 30th, 2013, 9:09 pm

I disagree that the MVC is a loser in realignment. Sure they lose Creighton and that is without a doubt a significant loss, but they replaced them with a team that is investing heavily into athletics, is in a very desirable location for recruiting, and has a lot of money, and could be a very good get for the Valley down the road. I don't consider the Valley a winner in the realignment game by any means, but I do think they certainly won't be losers, and will remain one of the most stable conferences in the NCAA. The CAA and the WAC are without a doubt the biggest losers in realignment IMO.
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby rlh04d » April 30th, 2013, 9:38 pm

kcmsaluki12 wrote:I disagree that the MVC is a loser in realignment. Sure they lose Creighton and that is without a doubt a significant loss, but they replaced them with a team that is investing heavily into athletics, is in a very desirable location for recruiting, and has a lot of money, and could be a very good get for the Valley down the road. I don't consider the Valley a winner in the realignment game by any means, but I do think they certainly won't be losers, and will remain one of the most stable conferences in the NCAA. The CAA and the WAC are without a doubt the biggest losers in realignment IMO.

Swapping Creighton for Loyola definitely makes the Valley losers in realignment.

Potential in the future doesn't make up for a significant drop in quality for the next few years.
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby Ali » May 2nd, 2013, 11:46 am

rlh04d wrote:
kcmsaluki12 wrote:I disagree that the MVC is a loser in realignment. Sure they lose Creighton and that is without a doubt a significant loss, but they replaced them with a team that is investing heavily into athletics, is in a very desirable location for recruiting, and has a lot of money, and could be a very good get for the Valley down the road. I don't consider the Valley a winner in the realignment game by any means, but I do think they certainly won't be losers, and will remain one of the most stable conferences in the NCAA. The CAA and the WAC are without a doubt the biggest losers in realignment IMO.

Swapping Creighton for Loyola definitely makes the Valley losers in realignment.

Potential in the future doesn't make up for a significant drop in quality for the next few years.

Definitely a loser in the short term. The questionis how long that impact lasts.
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby rlh04d » May 2nd, 2013, 1:30 pm

Ali wrote:
rlh04d wrote:
kcmsaluki12 wrote:I disagree that the MVC is a loser in realignment. Sure they lose Creighton and that is without a doubt a significant loss, but they replaced them with a team that is investing heavily into athletics, is in a very desirable location for recruiting, and has a lot of money, and could be a very good get for the Valley down the road. I don't consider the Valley a winner in the realignment game by any means, but I do think they certainly won't be losers, and will remain one of the most stable conferences in the NCAA. The CAA and the WAC are without a doubt the biggest losers in realignment IMO.

Swapping Creighton for Loyola definitely makes the Valley losers in realignment.

Potential in the future doesn't make up for a significant drop in quality for the next few years.

Definitely a loser in the short term. The questionis how long that impact lasts.

Until Loyola is comparable to what Creighton was?

A decade? Three?

We're certainly not "the biggest loser" by any stretch of the imagination, but it's going to be a long time until Loyola can realize it's potential to be even a third of the contributor to the Valley that Creighton was.
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby Lou_Valley » June 30th, 2013, 5:27 pm

Colonial is #1, A-10 is #2.

Colonial has been abused by the Atlantic 10 of late.

A-10 not only subs in George Mason for 4 teams, they more or less constructively evict two more with the Mason add. If it wasn't for the flow of CAA teams to the A-10, the A-10 would stand alone as the biggest loser in the realignment game.

Nice work trading Butler, Xavier, Temple, and Charlotte for George Mason. And to top it off, the commissioner got an extension for it!
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby rlh04d » June 30th, 2013, 6:06 pm

Lou_Valley wrote:Colonial is #1, A-10 is #2.

Colonial has been abused by the Atlantic 10 of late.

A-10 not only subs in George Mason for 4 teams, they more or less constructively evict two more with the Mason add. If it wasn't for the flow of CAA teams to the A-10, the A-10 would stand alone as the biggest loser in the realignment game.

Nice work trading Butler, Xavier, Temple, and Charlotte for George Mason. And to top it off, the commissioner got an extension for it!

It's really impressive how you managed to post in seven different threads about the same thing.
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby Lou_Valley » June 30th, 2013, 6:14 pm

rlh04d wrote:
Lou_Valley wrote:Colonial is #1, A-10 is #2.

Colonial has been abused by the Atlantic 10 of late.

A-10 not only subs in George Mason for 4 teams, they more or less constructively evict two more with the Mason add. If it wasn't for the flow of CAA teams to the A-10, the A-10 would stand alone as the biggest loser in the realignment game.

Nice work trading Butler, Xavier, Temple, and Charlotte for George Mason. And to top it off, the commissioner got an extension for it!

It's really impressive how you managed to post in seven different threads about the same thing.


Well, if you can't be famous, be infamous. That, and the quicker SLU gets the bleep out of the A-10, the better.
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby rlh04d » June 30th, 2013, 7:35 pm

Lou_Valley wrote:Well, if you can't be famous, be infamous. That, and the quicker SLU gets the bleep out of the A-10, the better.

You know, I think prior to your posts, they were really looking at the issue as being about bettering their situation, improving television contracts and other forms of revenue, or perhaps that their association with eastern schools gives them recruiting and television advantages that they would not have in the midwest.

But now I think you've changed their opinion.

Sorry, I think you're wrong. The A-10 is still better for them.
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby Lou_Valley » June 30th, 2013, 8:08 pm

rlh04d wrote:
Lou_Valley wrote:Well, if you can't be famous, be infamous. That, and the quicker SLU gets the bleep out of the A-10, the better.

You know, I think prior to your posts, they were really looking at the issue as being about bettering their situation, improving television contracts and other forms of revenue, or perhaps that their association with eastern schools gives them recruiting and television advantages that they would not have in the midwest.

But now I think you've changed their opinion.

Sorry, I think you're wrong. The A-10 is still better for them.


MY single biggest problem with the A-10 is that the latest round of expansion leaves St. Louis, Missouri on an island. That's why I went nuts tonight about the MVC. That, and I found my login info.
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Re: The Biggest Loser?

Postby Lou_Valley » June 30th, 2013, 8:13 pm

Kinda surprising that someone would want their team in the MVC, and there's backlash.
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