MVC Win Averages (1996-2013)

[matter_of_fact]

That 17 year period is the period of time during which the most recent configuration of conference members (incl. Creighton) was together.

[Wufan]

That 17 year period is the period of time during which the most recent configuration of conference members (incl. Creighton) was together.

I thought Evansville joined in 1994-95?

[matter_of_fact]

Evansville may have joined in 1994 but Tulsa was a member through the 1994-95 Season so the then current configuration (incl Creighton) didn't begin until 1996-97

[matter_of_fact]

Oops. I think Tulsa was a member through the 1995-96 season

[Wufan]

Makes sense to me. 17 years of stability is actually quite impressive. Also, Creighton's consistent run at or near the top (double figure conference wins all 17 years) is ridiculous good.

[Born2Shock]

Now put together a graph including attendance with each of those years. Would be interesting to see if it follows the same curve for each school.

[shoxrox]

One thing that I hadn't given much thought to, but that this all illustrates is the geographic disparity between the top and bottom division clubs. The Illinois and Indiana schools have on the whole underperformed while the Western schools have been the standard bearers. I find this interesting when the conference tends to kowtow to the wishes and desires of the schools that have on average brought less to the table. I could go on and on about this point but it is the thing that strikes me the most on a macro level.

On a micro level I find WSU's average to be interesting. It shows that they are not the hegemon that their fans think they are. They are the big guy right now, but it still could be smoke and mirrors with a neat Final Four thrown in. If Gregg goes to Auburn in the next year or--which I personally believe that there is a decent possibility of then they are let's say a Doc Sadler or Scott Spinelli hire away from potentially being Drake post Mark Phelps. With better resources and stuff but still.

Missouri State shows well over the past 16 or 17 years but frankly it has still been an underachievement and I wouldn't hide from that fact. WSU has a F4, UNI has the S16 with an epic win, SIUC has the same minus the epic win part but with lots of hardware in the way of titles, CU has lots of titles, March Madness flameouts and embellished stories about hooking up with chunky UMSL girls that they met at Sundecker's, and Missouri State is left with one S16 fourteen years ago that has become almost a distant memory. We are like the Lee Westwood of this conference. We are as good as they come tee to green but when are we going to start sinking putts in March? When's gonna be our time?

But yeah this is interesting. I love data and facts and this is great as a frame of reference. Good work.

I know you don't believe half the stuff you post and you do it just to get a rise out of people. I get it. But this is one of your worst risers yet. A lot of jargon and hopeful thinking all mixed together as one rambling post. In addition to our Final Four, WSU also has a Sweet 16 from 7 years ago. Don't forget about that.

People dogged WSU fans for always talking about the past. Well, now you can talk about the present and future where WSU has checkmate.

Smoke and mirrors huh? Keep telling yourself that as you continue to watch us from your seat at home in March.

[Red]

Thanks for taking the time to put all of this together.

[shoxrox]

I'd also like to thank Redbird Recon for doing this. Very cool.

I'd be curious to know overall win averages during that same time period as well.

[rlh04d]

On a micro level I find WSU's average to be interesting. It shows that they are not the hegemon that their fans think they are. They are the big guy right now, but it still could be smoke and mirrors with a neat Final Four thrown in.

Or what it says is that you could start at different years within that time period and get significantly different numbers. I get that's the period where the conference was stable, but a 10 season time frame is normally used for something like this. Start in 2003 and WSU has the second most amount of conference wins behind Creighton.

Your attempt to make it sound like our Final Four run is an aberration as to the best team in the conference is a joke, though. WSU is the winningest team in the conference over the last five seasons, counting Creighton. An aberration would be MoSt's Sweet 16 in the 90's.

No WSU fan is going to say we are the best team in this specific time period. We were a terrible team in the 90's. Any timeframe that includes that period will reflect that.