MVC Games 12/4

[SHOXMVC]

I think it's safe to say the regardless of what Valley school you follow, Loyola is everyone's second favorite team today.

Although it's less likely, I will also be pulling pretty hard for Indiana State today against Butler. Brad Stevens is long gone and I have lost any respect I ever had for the Bulldogs.

Why the lost respect?

[SHOXMVC]

I think it's safe to say the regardless of what Valley school you follow, Loyola is everyone's second favorite team today.

Although it's less likely, I will also be pulling pretty hard for Indiana State today against Butler. Brad Stevens is long gone and I have lost any respect I ever had for the Bulldogs.

Why the lost respect?

[E-Villan]

I think it's safe to say the regardless of what Valley school you follow, Loyola is everyone's second favorite team today.

Although it's less likely, I will also be pulling pretty hard for Indiana State today against Butler. Brad Stevens is long gone and I have lost any respect I ever had for the Bulldogs.

Why the lost respect?

Mainly because of non-sense like this. Here are two quotes from today on the Butler board in regards to the game with Indiana State:

I'm sorry I disagree. When you play a lesser in state team that hates you it almost always is a close game if the high major doesn't prepare. It happens time and time again because it's a trap. By scheduling this lesser team they are only getting them amped up to beat the high major team. You cannot say it isn't a trend that we continually suck against teams like Indiana State, Ball state, Evansville, among others, it's happened more than once which to me classifies them as trap games

It's why high major teams don't often play mid majors in state. They are one sided rivalries where the mid major is amped for the game and the high major doesn't care.

This is program just a few years removed from the Horizon league. This is why the whole "high major" and "mid major" labeling is idiotic. What constitutes it? Budgets? Conference affilation? Fan support outside the school? The only thing Butler has of the three is conference affiliation. I don't think their budget would even be the highest in the MVC, and I hate to break it to them, but there are only two basketball programs in Indiana, possibly ND, that the general public gives a rats rear about. Butler is much closer to the so-called lesser mid-majors than they could ever hope to be against Purdue and IU. Sucks, but it's just a fact.

I wonder how they feel about WSU, who in my opinion, is currently far more relevant on the national scale than Butler. Not only more relevant nationally, but operating with a much larger fan base and basketball budget. 20 years ago, when UE moved up to the Valley and Butler was stuck in the Horizon, they made sure to maintain the series with Butler because it was the longest rivalry for both schools. UE even went as far as scheduling Butler to open the Ford Center over Indiana because of the respect for the series. As soon as Butler got the Big East nod, the UE series was immediately dropped.

Screw em, I am sure the best two Butler seasons any of us will see in our lifetimes happened when they were in the Horizon.

[Rambler63]

Loyola, who has size issues anyway, is playing without their 6'7'" senior forward Montel James. Out indefinitely with a back injury.

[SHOXMVC]

I think it's safe to say the regardless of what Valley school you follow, Loyola is everyone's second favorite team today.

Although it's less likely, I will also be pulling pretty hard for Indiana State today against Butler. Brad Stevens is long gone and I have lost any respect I ever had for the Bulldogs.

Why the lost respect?

Mainly because of non-sense like this. Here are two quotes from today on the Butler board in regards to the game with Indiana State:

I'm sorry I disagree. When you play a lesser in state team that hates you it almost always is a close game if the high major doesn't prepare. It happens time and time again because it's a trap. By scheduling this lesser team they are only getting them amped up to beat the high major team. You cannot say it isn't a trend that we continually suck against teams like Indiana State, Ball state, Evansville, among others, it's happened more than once which to me classifies them as trap games

It's why high major teams don't often play mid majors in state. They are one sided rivalries where the mid major is amped for the game and the high major doesn't care.

This is program just a few years removed from the Horizon league. This is why the whole "high major" and "mid major" labeling is idiotic. What constitutes it? Budgets? Conference affilation? Fan support outside the school? The only thing Butler has of the three is conference affiliation. I don't think their budget would even be the highest in the MVC, and I hate to break it to them, but there are only two basketball programs in Indiana, possibly ND, that the general public gives a rats rear about. Butler is much closer to the so-called lesser mid-majors than they could ever hope to be against Purdue and IU. Sucks, but it's just a fact.

I wonder how they feel about WSU, who in my opinion, is currently far more relevant on the national scale than Butler. Not only more relevant nationally, but operating with a much larger fan base and basketball budget. 20 years ago, when UE moved up to the Valley and Butler was stuck in the Horizon, they made sure to maintain the series with Butler because it was the longest rivalry for both schools. UE even went as far as scheduling Butler to open the Ford Center over Indiana because of the respect for the series. As soon as Butler got the Big East nod, the UE series was immediately dropped.

Screw em, I am sure the best two Butler seasons any of us will see in our lifetimes happened when they were in the Horizon.

Thanks for the education. It is sad that a great story program like Butler has to act big time in pockets of their fan base. I know, it could probably be said about some pockets of the WSU fan base. What ever happened to loyalty and tradition. Oh yea, money and preceived fame rear their ugly heads and cloud the visions of the narrow minded.

[MVCfans]

Loyola up 3 on Creighton with under a minute to play.

[Play Angry]

Loyola clearly the better, more athletic team. Ramblers take care of business against the lowly Jays, whose death spiral continues.

Good work LUC.

[Redbirdgrad]

Loyola clearly the better, more athletic team. Ramblers take care of business against the lowly Jays, whose death spiral continues.

Good work LUC.

Absoultely. Great work by the Ramblers.

[Ace75]

Nice win Ramblers!!!
MSU up on OK ST early

[xmvcrunner]

Congrats Loyola!! Great win!

go Bears, don't pull another Utah State on us! Hold on today!

Sadly, but just as expected, the Sycamores get pummeled at Butler, although by less than 20 points! Sycamores shoot a putrid 28% from 3 (8-28) and a lowly 38% from the field.

Again MVC fans, if your coaches do not zone Indiana State then they're flat out stupid. We can't hit squat, so your best defense is to let us jack up missed 3 after missed 3, because we'll keep shooting them.