Great Series on What Makes a Cinderella

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Re: Great Series on What Makes a Cinderella

Postby VUGrad1314 » August 12th, 2018, 4:55 pm

I'd love to hear more about his methodology and what defines a true mid but look how prominently the MVC figures into this list. Many of these entries were are or would become MVC members. Note: the list only covers the past 10 years back to 2008.

https://twitter.com/totally_t_bomb/stat ... 2181742592
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Re: Great Series on What Makes a Cinderella

Postby VUGrad1314 » August 12th, 2018, 5:41 pm

What a slap in the face of the MVC by this Creighton fan.

https://twitter.com/Lets_Go_Jays/status ... 4736397313

So CUSA is a major on par with the A10 and MWC

The Ivy League CAA and MAC are mid majors

But the MVC is neither.

Yeah... Okay...
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Re: Great Series on What Makes a Cinderella

Postby E-Villan » August 13th, 2018, 9:14 am

VUGrad1314 wrote:What a slap in the face of the MVC by this Creighton fan.

https://twitter.com/Lets_Go_Jays/status ... 4736397313

So CUSA is a major on par with the A10 and MWC

The Ivy League CAA and MAC are mid majors

But the MVC is neither.

Yeah... Okay...


I am not sure I would get so worked up by an irrelevant tweet by a Creighton fan, but the argument illustrates exactly why I hate the term, and wish we would stop using it.

There is no definition of what is a so-called Mid-Major. It is a term coined by ESPN and TV Execs. 20 years ago, there was no mid-major, and it was easier for at-large teams from the Valley, etc to get bids. I think it is more than coincidence that since this term has started getting tossed around, the at-larges seem to be shrinking. All it does is validate the P5 hacks and talking heads for drawing lines in the sand.

Perception is reality. The A-10 doesn't participate in these silly polls and such, and somehow ends up with more at-larges than we do, even though our collective RPI's are competitive most years. In fact, while they get more bids, we of late have done much better with less, having two final four teams in the last five years.

Who cares if Loyola is #4 in the Mid-Major Poll? It is completely meaningless, and does nothing to enhance our credibility. Elgin and the league should follow the A-10, and not allow our coaches to participate in voting in this.
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Re: Great Series on What Makes a Cinderella

Postby VUGrad1314 » August 14th, 2018, 4:56 pm

I hear you on this E-Villan. We need to do more to claim the respect we feel we've earned. Still I think if we can keep the success going, the respect will come.
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Re: Great Series on What Makes a Cinderella

Postby VUGrad1314 » August 14th, 2018, 5:02 pm

Here's the Conclusion of the Cinderella Code: In it, Craig details the financial impact of these runs on these schools. He also posits three candidates for the next great Cinderella run, two of which the MVC could probably have if they wanted them. Not that I'm necessarily advocating for either one. His three candidates are: Penn Lipscomb and Grand Canyon.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/8/ ... anyon-penn
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Postby BCPanther » August 14th, 2018, 6:38 pm

VUGrad1314 wrote:Here's the Conclusion of the Cinderella Code: In it, Craig details the financial impact of these runs on these schools. He also posits three candidates for the next great Cinderella run, two of which the MVC could probably have if they wanted them. Not that I'm necessarily advocating for either one. His three candidates are: Penn Lipscomb and Grand Canyon.

https://www.midmajormadness.com/2018/8/ ... anyon-penn


UNI plays both Penn and Grand Canyon. Solid scheduling.
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