Official 2018-19 MVCfans.com Prediction - Champion

[Birdfan2018]

sorry, but if I had to pick betweem Phil Fayne and Cameron Krutwig to start for the Redbirds, I'm taking Phil Fayne. And just about every preseason magazine, CBSSports, and others have Phil Fayne 1st team all-MVC.

Fayne vs. Krutwig is always a fun debate. If we're going based on preseason hype though i'll take the player on the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Award Preseason watch list (and the USA today preseason All-American).

Advanced stats favor Krutwig in most cases (defensive rebound %, win shares, box score +/-), they have similar fg % with Krutwig barely having an edge, Krutwig is a better passer (twice as many assists) and I would argue has more polished footwork. His game is usually mind over matter, great positioning and playing angles, he was not the most athletic big man and could be exploited at times on defense by quick guards. Though he's really slimmed down as of late and is moving a lot better.

Faynes athleticism and length however always needs to be taken account; he can play above the rim. The athleticism allows him to suck up a lot of rebounds, where he averages one more per game than Krut (though it should be noted Loyola rarely crashes the offensives glass). Faynes physical gifts also give him an advantage defending the rim. Obviously Fayne also scored more (at times out of necessity) given ISU's team last year; with that he also played 6 more minutes a game.

Head to head Fayne took game 1, Krutwig took game 2 and I would say game 3 was a tie. Krutwig has more room to grow only entering his sophomore year while Fayne at this points a grizzled vet.

Obviously we're both a lil biased. Both are great players.

Who has seen them play head-to-head more than the MVC Coaches and Media? They voted Phil Fayne 1st team Cameron Krutwig 2nd Team. Would I swap Phil for Cameron? Yes, he has two more seasons left after this season
Two great players, and I am looking forward to two (possibly three) great games between these two players and these two very good teams.

[Adunk33]

sorry, but if I had to pick betweem Phil Fayne and Cameron Krutwig to start for the Redbirds, I'm taking Phil Fayne. And just about every preseason magazine, CBSSports, and others have Phil Fayne 1st team all-MVC.

Fayne vs. Krutwig is always a fun debate. If we're going based on preseason hype though i'll take the player on the Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Award Preseason watch list (and the USA today preseason All-American).

Advanced stats favor Krutwig in most cases (defensive rebound %, win shares, box score +/-), they have similar fg % with Krutwig barely having an edge, Krutwig is a better passer (twice as many assists) and I would argue has more polished footwork. His game is usually mind over matter, great positioning and playing angles, he was not the most athletic big man and could be exploited at times on defense by quick guards. Though he's really slimmed down as of late and is moving a lot better.

Faynes athleticism and length however always needs to be taken account; he can play above the rim. The athleticism allows him to suck up a lot of rebounds, where he averages one more per game than Krut (though it should be noted Loyola rarely crashes the offensives glass). Faynes physical gifts also give him an advantage defending the rim. Obviously Fayne also scored more (at times out of necessity) given ISU's team last year; with that he also played 6 more minutes a game.

Head to head Fayne took game 1, Krutwig took game 2 and I would say game 3 was a tie. Krutwig has more room to grow only entering his sophomore year while Fayne at this points a grizzled vet.

Obviously we're both a lil biased. Both are great players.

Who has seen them play head-to-head more than the MVC Coaches and Media? They voted Phil Fayne 1st team Cameron Krutwig 2nd Team. Would I swap Phil for Cameron? Yes, he has two more seasons left after this season
Two great players, and I am looking forward to two (possibly three) great games between these two players and these two very good teams.

Those lists always include some guys from smaller schools so the people who make them don't appear to be Power "biased." Its's like Custer being on the Naismith watch list. Don't get me wrong, he is a great player, but I would be surprised if either sniffed those respective awards.

The question is would I take Phil Fayne for one year or Krutwig for 3..... uhm, Krutwig has longevity there so it's probably unfair. Next season we might be asking would you rather have Keith Fisher for 2 or Krutwig. Or better yet, Rey Idowu for 3 or Krutwig for two

It's a silly comparison because they are not even close to the same player. They score in very different ways. Their main alike component is that they score near the bucket and shoot a high %. I love both players but THIS SEASON, I'll take the senior.