Dru Smith - Mizzou/Evansville

[tribecalledquest]

We can't, in the MVC take all these transfers and petition the NCAA for immediate eligibility and get even kind if huffy about it and then at the same time throw a temper tantrum when one of yours wants to leave.

I've been saying this for a long time. MVC fans need to stop crying about the transfer rule. League teams are littered with D1 transfers. Two of the preseason all league guys (Yarbrough and Custer) are D1 transfers. You don't get to have it both ways.

[musiccitybulldog]

We can't, in the MVC take all these transfers and petition the NCAA for immediate eligibility and get even kind if huffy about it and then at the same time throw a temper tantrum when one of yours wants to leave.

I've been saying this for a long time. MVC fans need to stop crying about the transfer rule. League teams are littered with D1 transfers. Two of the preseason all league guys (Yarbrough and Custer) are D1 transfers. You don't get to have it both ways.

Tribemans correct. Probably most mid-major players on all teams see transferring to a P5 as success.

[Sir Sci]

Evansville's AD responded: https://www.courierpress.com/story/spor ... 832073002/

Honestly, sounds more like MU's compliance office tried to get Evansville to lie about the circumstances of Smith's transfer and they wouldn't. But of course MU gets all pissy about actually having to follow the rules and blames Evansville for not just blatantly falsifying information for their benefit.

That being said, the transfer rules should probably be changed anyhow.

[E-Villan]

Looks like it's time you guys put your pitchforks up. Anyone interested in Spencer's on the record, official response.

https://gopurpleaces.com/news/2018/10/3 ... encer.aspx

I am wondering if they are going to use all of those nightcrawlers that just spilled out of that can in Columbia? I wouldn't mind going fishing this week.

[tribecalledquest]

We can't, in the MVC take all these transfers and petition the NCAA for immediate eligibility and get even kind if huffy about it and then at the same time throw a temper tantrum when one of yours wants to leave.

I've been saying this for a long time. MVC fans need to stop crying about the transfer rule. League teams are littered with D1 transfers. Two of the preseason all league guys (Yarbrough and Custer) are D1 transfers. You don't get to have it both ways.

Tribemans correct. Probably most mid-major players on all teams see transferring to a P5 as success.

And I dislike the implication these guys can't think for themselves. They aren't FORCED to transfer to a P5. They consciously make that decision.

[Drakey]

There is absolutely no basis for a waiver. This type of transfer is exactly what the rule requiring a player to sit out a year was meant to address. The rule was to stop players from hopping all overt and to stop schools from recruiting other schools players. That is likely what happened here. He chose to leave because of his great opportunity. He needs to sit out a year.

[BEARZ77]

There is absolutely no basis for a waiver. This type of transfer is exactly what the rule requiring a player to sit out a year was meant to address. The rule was to stop players from hopping all overt and to stop schools from recruiting other schools players. That is likely what happened here. He chose to leave because of his great opportunity. He needs to sit out a year.

I disagree totally. I do support Evansville stance on not being willing to falsify the waiver request and think it's a really sleazy thing for MU to expect them to do so. That's one issue. The fact that a kid had an opportunity to play at a higher level and maybe get to an NCAA tourney should not be something he gets penalized for or denied . Coaches don't have to sit a year when they leave, Universities don't have to do w/o a scholarship for a year when they run a player off. It's a competitive society where individuals have the freedom to pursue opportunity in every endeavor except this. Other students can transfer for their area of interest and don't have to sit a year. Can you imagine, yeah you can transfer from State U to Harvard but you can't use the library for a year.

[purple&orange]

There is absolutely no basis for a waiver. This type of transfer is exactly what the rule requiring a player to sit out a year was meant to address. The rule was to stop players from hopping all overt and to stop schools from recruiting other schools players. That is likely what happened here. He chose to leave because of his great opportunity. He needs to sit out a year.

I disagree totally. I do support Evansville stance on not being willing to falsify the waiver request and think it's a really sleazy thing for MU to expect them to do so. That's one issue. The fact that a kid had an opportunity to play at a higher level and maybe get to an NCAA tourney should not be something he gets penalized for or denied . Coaches don't have to sit a year when they leave, Universities don't have to do w/o a scholarship for a year when they run a player off. It's a competitive society where individuals have the freedom to pursue opportunity in every endeavor except this. Other students can transfer for their area of interest and don't have to sit a year. Can you imagine, yeah you can transfer from State U to Harvard but you can't use the library for a year.

I agree totally. The best thing the NCAA could do is clarify or have a simple list of acceptable reasons to transfer. On the UE site I outlined a few ideas as the rule itself is the biggest issue. With that said, if the rule is in place and this is the avenue Missouri tried to use to get Dru eligible then provided the timeline is correct in the AD's statement then it's the right call to deny.

I wish Dru nothing but the best, he played his heart out while at Evansville and wish he was still here. Transfer reform is something that will probably be in play over the next few seasons, but good luck letting those in power (coaches, ADs, etc) to relent easily.

[MissouriValleyUnite]

Damn. Mark Spencer eviscerated that writer.

[tribecalledquest]

There is absolutely no basis for a waiver. This type of transfer is exactly what the rule requiring a player to sit out a year was meant to address. The rule was to stop players from hopping all overt and to stop schools from recruiting other schools players. That is likely what happened here. He chose to leave because of his great opportunity. He needs to sit out a year.

I disagree totally. I do support Evansville stance on not being willing to falsify the waiver request and think it's a really sleazy thing for MU to expect them to do so. That's one issue. The fact that a kid had an opportunity to play at a higher level and maybe get to an NCAA tourney should not be something he gets penalized for or denied . Coaches don't have to sit a year when they leave, Universities don't have to do w/o a scholarship for a year when they run a player off. It's a competitive society where individuals have the freedom to pursue opportunity in every endeavor except this. Other students can transfer for their area of interest and don't have to sit a year. Can you imagine, yeah you can transfer from State U to Harvard but you can't use the library for a year.

I agree totally. The best thing the NCAA could do is clarify or have a simple list of acceptable reasons to transfer. On the UE site I outlined a few ideas as the rule itself is the biggest issue. With that said, if the rule is in place and this is the avenue Missouri tried to use to get Dru eligible then provided the timeline is correct in the AD's statement then it's the right call to deny.

I wish Dru nothing but the best, he played his heart out while at Evansville and wish he was still here. Transfer reform is something that will probably be in play over the next few seasons, but good luck letting those in power (coaches, ADs, etc) to relent easily.

I think most of us disagree with the way the transfer rules are set up now. But under the current rules Evansville did everything correctly. The column by Frederickson was really bad.