What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby Kyle@MOState » January 13th, 2019, 4:12 pm

ptownbraves wrote:I’ll take a shot at this.

It starts and ends with recruiting. Specifically, being unable to recruit or develop MVC-level guards.

When Geno was hired, there was a lot of hope that the coaching staff (i.e. Chin Coleman) would work the Chicago-area for recruits. That didn’t exactly pan out as expected and Bradley ended up with a handful of OK but not great players serving as starting 5 (Walt Lemon Jr being the sole bright spot during those years) for most of Geno’s tenure. The results on the floor were lacking and Geno was shown the door. In Geno’s last year, he landed Josh Cunningham and Donte Thomas. Cunningham was a top 100 prospect and ended up transferring to Dayton when Wardle was brought in. Donte stayed and ended up developing into the best player Bradley has seen in 5 years.

Wardle and a new AD were installed and they took the opportunity to clean house. The late recruiting start meant having to search far and wide for available players, but most of the Bradley faithful were ok with the overall process if it would mean winning in years 3 and 4. Everything was looking on schedule and year 4 (this year) was supposed to be the year they compete for the top of the league. Things were even looking fine with wins over SMU and Penn State. But then, it’s like someone flipped a switch and this team mentally forgot how basketball works. It’s bizarre and frustrating to watch as a fan. A lot of fans point to Wardle’s substitution patterns and players who are playing not to make mistakes. The simple explanation: this team is made up of guys who would be coming off the bench on most MVC teams. The two best scorers right now (Brown and Childs) are also turnover machines.

It’s a mess in Peoria and most of it comes down to recruiting misses. The fans are desperate for a winner they can get behind.


This sounds so familiar... Just thank your lucky stars that your AD didn't give Wardle an extension after last year. It could have been worse for the Bradley faithful.
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby ptownbraves » January 13th, 2019, 4:29 pm

Kyle@MOState wrote:
ptownbraves wrote:I’ll take a shot at this.

It starts and ends with recruiting. Specifically, being unable to recruit or develop MVC-level guards.

When Geno was hired, there was a lot of hope that the coaching staff (i.e. Chin Coleman) would work the Chicago-area for recruits. That didn’t exactly pan out as expected and Bradley ended up with a handful of OK but not great players serving as starting 5 (Walt Lemon Jr being the sole bright spot during those years) for most of Geno’s tenure. The results on the floor were lacking and Geno was shown the door. In Geno’s last year, he landed Josh Cunningham and Donte Thomas. Cunningham was a top 100 prospect and ended up transferring to Dayton when Wardle was brought in. Donte stayed and ended up developing into the best player Bradley has seen in 5 years.

Wardle and a new AD were installed and they took the opportunity to clean house. The late recruiting start meant having to search far and wide for available players, but most of the Bradley faithful were ok with the overall process if it would mean winning in years 3 and 4. Everything was looking on schedule and year 4 (this year) was supposed to be the year they compete for the top of the league. Things were even looking fine with wins over SMU and Penn State. But then, it’s like someone flipped a switch and this team mentally forgot how basketball works. It’s bizarre and frustrating to watch as a fan. A lot of fans point to Wardle’s substitution patterns and players who are playing not to make mistakes. The simple explanation: this team is made up of guys who would be coming off the bench on most MVC teams. The two best scorers right now (Brown and Childs) are also turnover machines.

It’s a mess in Peoria and most of it comes down to recruiting misses. The fans are desperate for a winner they can get behind.


This sounds so familiar... Just thank your lucky stars that your AD didn't give Wardle an extension after last year. It could have been worse for the Bradley faithful.


Ha...guess what our AD did this Spring?
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby Kyle@MOState » January 13th, 2019, 6:08 pm

ptownbraves wrote:
Kyle@MOState wrote:
ptownbraves wrote:I’ll take a shot at this.

It starts and ends with recruiting. Specifically, being unable to recruit or develop MVC-level guards.

When Geno was hired, there was a lot of hope that the coaching staff (i.e. Chin Coleman) would work the Chicago-area for recruits. That didn’t exactly pan out as expected and Bradley ended up with a handful of OK but not great players serving as starting 5 (Walt Lemon Jr being the sole bright spot during those years) for most of Geno’s tenure. The results on the floor were lacking and Geno was shown the door. In Geno’s last year, he landed Josh Cunningham and Donte Thomas. Cunningham was a top 100 prospect and ended up transferring to Dayton when Wardle was brought in. Donte stayed and ended up developing into the best player Bradley has seen in 5 years.

Wardle and a new AD were installed and they took the opportunity to clean house. The late recruiting start meant having to search far and wide for available players, but most of the Bradley faithful were ok with the overall process if it would mean winning in years 3 and 4. Everything was looking on schedule and year 4 (this year) was supposed to be the year they compete for the top of the league. Things were even looking fine with wins over SMU and Penn State. But then, it’s like someone flipped a switch and this team mentally forgot how basketball works. It’s bizarre and frustrating to watch as a fan. A lot of fans point to Wardle’s substitution patterns and players who are playing not to make mistakes. The simple explanation: this team is made up of guys who would be coming off the bench on most MVC teams. The two best scorers right now (Brown and Childs) are also turnover machines.

It’s a mess in Peoria and most of it comes down to recruiting misses. The fans are desperate for a winner they can get behind.


This sounds so familiar... Just thank your lucky stars that your AD didn't give Wardle an extension after last year. It could have been worse for the Bradley faithful.


Ha...guess what our AD did this Spring?


Oh gosh... I somehow missed that. Hopefully it works out better for you all than it did for us. Apparently our AD didn't learn his lesson after Lusk. He did the same thing with our football coach a couple years ago. Our football team didn't even have a mediocre year to build upon.
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby hot nuts » January 14th, 2019, 9:31 am

I don't see anything wrong with Bradley's current trajectory. Keep up the good work coach Wardle! I'd actually like to see Bradley good again, I miss having basketball excitement in central Illinois.
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby Majik45 » January 14th, 2019, 11:20 am

Most Bradley fans can't figure out what is going on. Every single player from last year started out strong, but after the Thanksgiving tourney wins, have completely regressed. Bradley can't shoot, they turn the ball over, and it's completely baffling what the hell happened. I didn't venture out to the game Saturday night as there was 10+ inches of snow in my street, but I saw they were up comfortably by 10 in the 2nd half and thought, well that will build some confidence.

Then they somehow found a way to lose. Most hardcore fans are calling for Wardle's job at this point, and other's like me have just become apathetic wondering what the hell has happened.

I think the whole team needs a sports psychologist.
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby NoItAll » January 14th, 2019, 11:34 am

BigMacAttack wrote:
municup14 wrote:So Evansville has a arena 3 years old,cost around 137 million to build
and it's not considered one of the best arenas.Can out of towners who
have watched a basketball game there tell me why.

Did you write this message in 2014 and it just arrived? The Ford Center opened in 2011. Here are a few possible reasons. Maybe a lot of out of towners have not visited the FC. Maybe because it is a hockey first arena and a lot of good seats are lost because of the end zone seating configuration. Maybe because a large public parking lot is almost a quarter mile away.


The parking lot is 1/8 mile away at most. The bigger your belt size the longer it seems. To keep from being El Rotundo, the recommended steps per day is 10,000. From the parking lot to the Ford center you're looking at about 300. Add another 300 for the walk back and you are still short on the day by 9400. And if that short walk bothers you I doubt that another 9400 is on your things to do list. Also, I wouldn't call the end zone seats good seats no matter the arena. It's a non issue accept that it looks bad on TV to see empty seats on free throw camera angles.
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » January 14th, 2019, 11:55 am

Just stay at DoubleTree...never have to step foot outside. Best setup in the league for out of towners.
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby Old School MVC » January 14th, 2019, 12:17 pm

Majik45 wrote:Most Bradley fans can't figure out what is going on. Every single player from last year started out strong, but after the Thanksgiving tourney wins, have completely regressed. Bradley can't shoot, they turn the ball over, and it's completely baffling what the hell happened. I didn't venture out to the game Saturday night as there was 10+ inches of snow in my street, but I saw they were up comfortably by 10 in the 2nd half and thought, well that will build some confidence.

Then they somehow found a way to lose. Most hardcore fans are calling for Wardle's job at this point, and other's like me have just become apathetic wondering what the hell has happened.

I think the whole team needs a sports psychologist.


Sounds like the "War on 74" will be a battle this year. These are a lot of the same comments made at Illinois State this year! At least they serve alcohol at Carver to lessen the pain! I guess the bright side for Redbird fans is that it looks like we are starting to turn the corner upwards, Bradley is heading the other way. I went to the Bradley / UNI game a couple weeks back, and the Braves look completely disinterested.
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby jackwagon » January 14th, 2019, 12:28 pm

MissouriValleyUnite wrote:Just stay at DoubleTree...never have to step foot outside. Best setup in the league for out of towners.


Exactly. Plus their breakfast at the hotel is top notch!
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Re: What exactly is wrong with Bradley basketball?

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » January 14th, 2019, 12:44 pm

jackwagon wrote:
MissouriValleyUnite wrote:Just stay at DoubleTree...never have to step foot outside. Best setup in the league for out of towners.


Exactly. Plus their breakfast at the hotel is top notch!


Actually typed that out and backspaced it LOL

(Can still smell their cinnamon rolls)
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