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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby freddycat68 » December 12th, 2019, 12:05 am

Blers wrote:1
freddycat68 wrote:1. UNI. Green is the best player in the conference, and Jacobson has UNI back.

UNI is far and away the best team in the valley this season, but I don't think AJ Green is the best player in the valley by any stretch. He hit a big shot last night but his efficiency numbers (at times due to poor shot selection) and his 1.2 assist/turnover ratio are leave a lot of room for growth. He still reminds me of Milton Doyle, who had a ton of talent, but probably did too much on his own. I’d take Freeman over any day over Green at this point, especially with the value added on defense. Doesn’t mean he can’t catch up though, he’s definitely got the talent!

I think the real key to UNI is Berhow. Stop him and force Green to work on your own and you have a chance. His two worst games were West Virginia (loss) and UNCO (overtime win). Oh, and he’s currently shooting 55% from 3…70% (!!!!!) in his last 6 games.

1. UNI- As mentioned, so sound, lots of options, Brown is also an elite defender. They have everything a team could want.

2. MSU- They could easily fall, but I still think their talent level will keep them afloat, finally closing out a game (against an OK Murray State) could be a big boost for confidence. Tough schedule should help.

3. Valpo- I’m willing to say this is probably too high. But I honestly really like what this team has. Nice wins over Toledo and Central Michigan, played Cincy tight. The Fazekas injury was probably a blessing to build depth with Clay and Gordon. Only concern is post presence against some tough bigs in conference.

4. LU- I can’t emphasize enough how excited I am for next season. And this year would look a whole lot better with 1 extra second of good defense against Colorado State. They have led well into the second halves of every game this year (in the double digits against UCF and CSU) with the exception of Furman. The talents there, just need to learn how to close out games and come back. The Clemons addition could be big; was great at Ball State.

5. BU- They still kind of remind me of the LU from last year. I feel like they press a little too hard sometimes, and I’m not sold on their depth. Brown has been ROUGH shooting the ball (28% from the field). I do like their top 5 guys still though, and wouldn’t be shocked to see them carry the team much higher.

6. Drake- They’ve been playing okay, against okay teams (like mentioned, I don’t think Murray State is great this year). Still, I respect the pieces and the coach.

7. ISUB- If I was basing this on only this year I’d be way higher on them, really tough schedule, lots of options on offense, getting hot at the right time. I’m only hesitant because I feel like the last few years they’ve had great non-cons only to falter in conference play, but maybe this is the year!

8. UE- The Kentucky win was incredible, and they’re headed in the right direction, but close wins 3 of their last four wins were under 6 points against Morgan State (3OT), IUPUI, and Western Illinois. Williams is a monster, KJ Riley is great, Cunliffe is a weapon, just need a bit more depth IMO and they’re definitely on the right track.

9. ISUR- Just need time, I love how scrappy they are, team culture is better, just got to develop talent, I agree I’ve been kinda disappointed by Fisher…

10. SIU- Domask, Jones, great freshman adds, Benson adds something inside, with McGill and then Cook back in the lineup before too long, they’re going to steal some wins.


I'm not too high on Bradley or Loyola, but picking Valpo over those 2 is flirting with delirium.
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby Blers » December 12th, 2019, 12:47 am

freddycat68 wrote:I'm not too high on Bradley or Loyola, but picking Valpo over those 2 is flirting with delirium.


Gotta be bold! At least i qualified it. I also just think 2-8 is really tight.
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby Aces183 » December 12th, 2019, 8:09 am

1) Evansville
2) UNI
3) MSU
4) Bradley
5) Loyola
6) Drake
7) ILST
8) IND ST
9) SIU
10) VALPO
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby Majik45 » December 12th, 2019, 8:33 am

Aces183 wrote:1) Evansville
2) UNI

:huh:
Anyone who doesn't think UNI is the best team in the valley right now has not been paying attention.
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby E-Villan » December 12th, 2019, 8:42 am

Majik45 wrote:
Aces183 wrote:1) Evansville
2) UNI

:huh:
Anyone who doesn't think UNI is the best team in the valley right now has not been paying attention.


Well, it was his first post.
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby Majik45 » December 12th, 2019, 8:50 am

Here's how I'd rank them, I like to do groups:
1. UNI - They have been far and away the best and most consistent team this year. Have they set themselves up to be in contention for an At Large bid?

2-4 Bradley, Loyola, and MSU
I'd put these 3 next as they all have looked really good at times, and yet have had head scratching performances as well. Bradley and Loyola get this ranking based on their finishes the last couple of years. MSU because of the talent they have. This group is just slightly above the next group.

5-7 Drake, Evansville, Valpo
Drake really hasn't played anyone yet, but they've won games they were supposed to win. Evansville has the huge win and some head scratchers like the group above. Valpo I could write the same as the group above, they have looked good at times, and bad at times. I put this group slightly below just because we haven't seen it as long as the group above. The gap between 1 and 2 is bigger than the gap between 2 and 7 at this point.

I'd probably rank the last 3 in this order:
8. Ind State - Started out bad, but have looked much better the last 3 weeks. If they continue to play like last 3 weeks, they belong in the group above.

9. Illinois State - Not sure what to think on ISUr. Had a couple of nice wins to open the season, but then have looked pretty mediocre since then other than Cincy game. Putting them low at this point just because of how they finished last year.

10. SIU - Mullins has them looking better than I thought they would be. They'll knock off some teams at home, but it's definitely a rebuild for the Salukis right now.
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby mvfcfan » December 12th, 2019, 9:08 am

UNI
DU
MSU
BU
LUC
UE
INST
VU
ILST
SIU
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby ACECARD » December 12th, 2019, 10:50 am

mvfcfan wrote:UNI
DU
MSU
BU
LUC
UE
INST
VU
ILST
SIU

Pretty close to where I would put them. Aces could be a little higher if they can improve defense, and rebounding. Not sure about Loyola either. They could be better.
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby BCPanther » December 12th, 2019, 11:25 am

A win tonight, at home against Marshall next weekend and 14 league wins (pretty standard for champs historically) gets UNI to 25-5 headed to StL with a 1-1 Quad 1 record. The key is can anybody from the league jump up and give some Quad 2 chances.

I think UNI will probably have done enough at that point but it would be an incredibly nervous Selection Sunday.
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Re: New and not so too-early predictions

Postby Adunk33 » December 12th, 2019, 11:51 am

BCPanther wrote:A win tonight, at home against Marshall next weekend and 14 league wins (pretty standard for champs historically) gets UNI to 25-5 headed to StL with a 1-1 Quad 1 record. The key is can anybody from the league jump up and give some Quad 2 chances.

I think UNI will probably have done enough at that point but it would be an incredibly nervous Selection Sunday.


If you're think at-large possibilities I would say no more than 3 conference losses and a 1 point loss on Sunday in STL. I don't trust the committee at all and this is a perfect example of why the NET is BS.
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