NCAA to approve one free transfer with immediate eligibility

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

Win. They're more likely to stay. If you lose and they leave get a new coach that can win

[BEARZ77]

If you create an environment where you win games and kids want to buy in, which starts from the very first contact in recruiting, you don't lose kids.

Programs that preach competition seem to do so much better.

Evidently winning the MVC in his first year wasn't enough success by that definition for Robbins to stay at Drake.

[sivert]

If you create an environment where you win games and kids want to buy in, which starts from the very first contact in recruiting, you don't lose kids.

Programs that preach competition seem to do so much better.

Evidently winning the MVC in his first year wasn't enough success by that definition for Robbins to stay at Drake.

Well, it's a generality.
When your team wins, then in general players will want to stay.
When the team feels like a family, then in general players will want to stay.
When the skill level of the whole team is good, and no player feel like he's carrying the team, then in general players will want to stay.
When the coach is stable (same guy who recruited you), then in general players will want to stay.
When the player doesn't have an unrealistic view of his own skills, then in general players will want to stay.
But also, when a player doesn't miss home too much, then in general players will want to stay.
When a player doesn't have psychological problems (NOT AN INSULT - REALITY), then in general players will want to stay.

I was more surprised by Robbins than Williams for a few of those reasons.

[sivert]

So, with this rule, I think all schools who keep kids 4 years are helped by this.
Who benefits the most in the Valley? Loyola, with a starting lineup of 5th year seniors next year...

[patnb]

If you create an environment where you win games and kids want to buy in, which starts from the very first contact in recruiting, you don't lose kids.

Programs that preach competition seem to do so much better.

Evidently winning the MVC in his first year wasn't enough success by that definition for Robbins to stay at Drake.

The 8th place follow up to that probably didn't help the case

[Blers]

[The 8th place follow up to that probably didn't help the case

Yeah, in a season where he played a lot more. Plus it was an eventful offseason for Drake last year AND he's related to the Minnesota's assistant coach and a player on their team... all during the pandemic....

[Drakey]

If you create an environment where you win games and kids want to buy in, which starts from the very first contact in recruiting, you don't lose kids.

Programs that preach competition seem to do so much better.

Evidently winning the MVC in his first year wasn't enough success by that definition for Robbins to stay at Drake.

The 8th place follow up to that probably didn't help the case

That had nothing to do with it. 8th place with one victory from 5th and two victories from third.

[BEARZ77]

I just think it's a little narrow-minded and naive to believe that winning and having a good culture ensures a mid major won't lose quality players at some point when a lucrative opportunity presents itself, or conversely it's always indicative of the opposite when a player leaves . Too many instances the last couple years of players leaving quality programs at lower levels for that next level opportunity. Some will,some won't, but it's more complex and individualized in motivations than simply he left because the program wasn't doing good things.

[goramblers2011]

I just think it's a little narrow-minded and naive to believe that winning and having a good culture ensures a mid major won't lose quality players at some point when a lucrative opportunity presents itself, or conversely it's always indicative of the opposite when a player leaves . Too many instances the last couple years of players leaving quality programs at lower levels for that next level opportunity. Some will,some won't, but it's more complex and individualized in motivations than simply he left because the program wasn't doing good things.

But a successful program and a winning culture certainly plays a major role. The evidence is there. Take a list of quality players that have left the MVC over the past 10 years and it is clear a vast majority have come from programs that, that the time of the transfer, were not considered "top tier."

It is not foolproof, of course, as even the 'big boys' lose quality players sometimes.

[BEARZ77]

No doubt it helps, and it's your best insurance against it happening a lot. It also helps if you recruit kids with some local or University affinity. A kid from Chicago is more likely to stay at Loyola where family and friends can watch and support , but also conversely, can lead a kid to transfer home like Freeman did when a otherwise mediocre DePaul program came calling.