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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Bulldog2323 » March 6th, 2021, 6:37 pm

Tucker Devries (Darian's son) has committed to Drake. Creighton was "disqualified" somewhat early in the recruiting process due to the travel distance for Big East games.

It basically came down to Iowa State and Drake. Many Drake fans are concerned that both Devries will jump ship to Iowa State if Prohm gets let go but that's not a certainty. Iowa State's AD has talked numerous times about how saving money is important and Prohm has a huge buyout. As much as I hate college basketball coach buyout clauses, that may be what ultimately keeps the Devries' family at Drake.
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Postby BCPanther » March 6th, 2021, 10:41 pm

Bulldog2323 wrote:Tucker Devries (Darian's son) has committed to Drake. Creighton was "disqualified" somewhat early in the recruiting process due to the travel distance for Big East games.

It basically came down to Iowa State and Drake. Many Drake fans are concerned that both Devries will jump ship to Iowa State if Prohm gets let go but that's not a certainty. Iowa State's AD has talked numerous times about how saving money is important and Prohm has a huge buyout. As much as I hate college basketball coach buyout clauses, that may be what ultimately keeps the Devries' family at Drake.


Players never change their minds based on what jobs their fathers take.

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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby tribecalledquest » March 7th, 2021, 6:32 pm

BCPanther wrote:
Bulldog2323 wrote:Tucker Devries (Darian's son) has committed to Drake. Creighton was "disqualified" somewhat early in the recruiting process due to the travel distance for Big East games.

It basically came down to Iowa State and Drake. Many Drake fans are concerned that both Devries will jump ship to Iowa State if Prohm gets let go but that's not a certainty. Iowa State's AD has talked numerous times about how saving money is important and Prohm has a huge buyout. As much as I hate college basketball coach buyout clauses, that may be what ultimately keeps the Devries' family at Drake.


Players never change their minds based on what jobs their fathers take.

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UNI fans.


They also never change their minds after publicly saying they will be back.

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I'm not buying that every Drake guy is coming back and that's going to sit well with everyone on the roster.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby BCPanther » March 7th, 2021, 8:28 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
Bulldog2323 wrote:Tucker Devries (Darian's son) has committed to Drake. Creighton was "disqualified" somewhat early in the recruiting process due to the travel distance for Big East games.

It basically came down to Iowa State and Drake. Many Drake fans are concerned that both Devries will jump ship to Iowa State if Prohm gets let go but that's not a certainty. Iowa State's AD has talked numerous times about how saving money is important and Prohm has a huge buyout. As much as I hate college basketball coach buyout clauses, that may be what ultimately keeps the Devries' family at Drake.


Players never change their minds based on what jobs their fathers take.

Sincerely,
UNI fans.


They also never change their minds after publicly saying they will be back.

Sincerely,
Javon Freeman Liberty

I'm not buying that every Drake guy is coming back and that's going to sit well with everyone on the roster.


Me either. It's real easy to say that in the middle of this but once you get away and realize your window to make money playing basketball is limited, your perspective changes real quick.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby BEARZ77 » March 8th, 2021, 9:26 am

And to me, again the bigger issue is your young players and recruits who were anticipating a certain opportunity or playing time and now are seeing a veteran player still in their path. Some may be fine with that, others may look for a more immediate path to pt. It will be a summer of much upheaval across college basketball.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Adunk33 » March 8th, 2021, 10:57 am

Illinois State AD Kyle Brennan on social media speculation about Dan Muller's job status: "I have really nothing to say. He's our coach. I don't know why there's rumors. There's no truth to the rumors he's leaving ... he's not going anywhere."

Not surprised a change isn't been made this season. I think COVID gave a pass to a lot of coaches around the country. The $$$ is too high. The team is young. Yada yada.

Muller has next year and IMO if he's not at least top 3 in the MVC, a change needs to be made.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby tribecalledquest » March 8th, 2021, 11:26 am

BEARZ77 wrote:And to me, again the bigger issue is your young players and recruits who were anticipating a certain opportunity or playing time and now are seeing a veteran player still in their path. Some may be fine with that, others may look for a more immediate path to pt. It will be a summer of much upheaval across college basketball.


Agreed 100%.

One example - when Penn and Hemphill went down Yesefu's game went to another level. Now they are both back and Devries is coming. So he's going to go back to getting less shots and less minutes? Again - not picking on him - just using that as an example.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby DUBulldog » March 8th, 2021, 11:33 am

tribecalledquest wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:And to me, again the bigger issue is your young players and recruits who were anticipating a certain opportunity or playing time and now are seeing a veteran player still in their path. Some may be fine with that, others may look for a more immediate path to pt. It will be a summer of much upheaval across college basketball.


Agreed 100%.

One example - when Penn and Hemphill went down Yesefu's game went to another level. Now they are both back and Devries is coming. So he's going to go back to getting less shots and less minutes? Again - not picking on him - just using that as an example.


Definitely would get less minutes. I seriously don't think he sat down in any of the 6-7 games he started....played 40 minutes each game. He was getting 20-25 minutes per game before Hemphill and Penn went down. He'll probably still be a 20-30 minute per game guy next season.

But, I agree with what you're saying. There are several freshmen on Drake's team who barely played. With everybody (theoretically) returning next season, they have to know that they will barely play next season either. Bulldogs had 16 guys suited up this season, including walk-ons. They could potentially have 18-19 next season if everybody comes back and they use their final scholarship.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby BEARZ77 » March 8th, 2021, 11:38 am

tribecalledquest wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:And to me, again the bigger issue is your young players and recruits who were anticipating a certain opportunity or playing time and now are seeing a veteran player still in their path. Some may be fine with that, others may look for a more immediate path to pt. It will be a summer of much upheaval across college basketball.


Agreed 100%.

One example - when Penn and Hemphill went down Yesefu's game went to another level. Now they are both back and Devries is coming. So he's going to go back to getting less shots and less minutes? Again - not picking on him - just using that as an example.


Not saying this will be the case for Drake, but yeah it's all positive until a guy looks at the prospect of coming off the bench or having to wait a year more for significant playing time because of seniors coming back and/or transfers coming in. I think it'll be a consistently active transfer portal all year with especially heavy late activity across all levels. I think there are already close to 500 names across D-1/D-2 in the portal and that's before a lot of coaching churn and seniors making announcements about returning.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby squirrel » March 9th, 2021, 1:13 pm

Not everyone wants to have a career playing professionally overseas.
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