Standings after 14 games

[pafan]

I assume that the rankings from early January would be void because various team's value goes up and down with their conference schedules. For example, UE's win over Indiana looked really good in the RPI on January 1. It doesn't look so good now. Same for Butler. And a team who beat Bradley in November would get less kudos for it now than they did on January 1st.

[acesfool]

UE's win over Indiana would look much better if they had actually beat Indiana.

[Realhoops]

According to the MVC website , the relevant reporting of strength of schedule is the one from "The RPI Report."

". . . non-conference schedule strength as calculated by The RPI Report on the day before the final day of conference games."

I think as of right now the schedule strength component of RPI from that site are:

InSt: .5499
WSU: .5338
EU: .5333
MSU: .5231
UNI: .5199
BU: .5171
DU: .5060
SIU: .5060
CU: .4968
IllSt: .4750

On that site, BYU is currently #1 in the RPI, with the fifth toughest strength of schedule in the country. And CU played BYU this year. You'd think having the #1 RPI team in the nation on your schedule would end up meaning something, right? Yeah, not so much when CU also scheduled SIX teams whose RPIs are currently 280 or worse: #281 Samford, #287 Louisiana, #312 Idaho State, #321 Western Illinois, #325 Kennesaw State, and #332 Alabama State. The only saving grace for CU's nonconference schedule this year is that perennial CU foes Florida A&M and Houston Baptist were not on the schedule -- they currently come in at #334 and dead freaking last #345, respectively. Amazing that it actually could have been worse for CU this year.

[cu8493]

There are two things Dana did over the last few years that have really soured my feelings for what he did for CU.

One is I believe they got lazy with recruiting, which has put us where we are now talent-wise.

The second issue is the trend in the last several years toward scheduling bottom feeders. During the best years of his tenure, we played one of the best nonconference schedules in the conference. Not the marque teams that some played, but overall a high quality nonconference schedule. The nonconference the last two to three years has been abaysmal. It is an embarrasment to have scheduled that many games against those schools. Further, when he had the chance to play North Carolina, he ran screaming the other way. I truly hope Greg is going to upgrade the schedule. Nothing, and I mean nothing, good comes out of the type of nonconference we have been scheduling the last few years.

[havoc]

Nothing, and I mean nothing, good comes out of the type of nonconference we have been scheduling the last few years.

Promotions to BCS schools for your coach.

[Ace Dad]

One is I believe they got lazy with recruiting, which has put us where we are now talent-wise.

Ok, explain to me how a Head Coach gets lazy with recruiting? His job depends on his recruits. A coach signs the best players he can get, not the best players he wants. A coach has two options regarding recruiting:

1. Sign the best damn player I can get.

2. Hold the scholarship for next year.

What is lazy recruiting? Are you saying he did not work as hard or his Lead Assistant did poorly?

[SubGod22]

One is I believe they got lazy with recruiting, which has put us where we are now talent-wise.

Ok, explain to me how a Head Coach gets lazy with recruiting? His job depends on his recruits. A coach signs the best players he can get, not the best players he wants. A coach has two options regarding recruiting:

1. Sign the best damn player I can get.

2. Hold the scholarship for next year.

What is lazy recruiting? Are you saying he did not work as hard or his Lead Assistant did poorly?

Maybe he should have said recruited poorly. It happens. Maybe some people get a little too comfortable or something. Turgeon had that issue just before he left

[Aargh]

Turgeon had that problem when recruiting anyone taller than 6'5".

Ryan Bradley, Zach Green, Arbry Butler, Chris Brown, Kurt Bangles. There's a reason no one outside of WSU fans have heard of most of 3 years of Turgeon's recruiting of front court players.

He had a major assist from baseball in recruiting Paul Miller. Kyle Wilson only ended up in Wichita because his grandparents lived here.

What was this thread originally about?

[Hacksaw]

[jegbomb52]

I just don't understand what was wrong with the previous tie-breaker system. It rewarded you for winning big road games. Look at us and Evansville, both of us have played Indiana, they play at Ohio State the last week of the year, after seeding is established, you don't think that game taking place now wouldn't help our SOS? How about New Mexico? A team we played in December, they play at BYU (#1 RPI school, if not now, for a while) after seedings are made. Why should we be penalized because our opponents schedule doesn't get tougher until after a certain deadline? We can control our OOC SOS, but we can't control when their RPI gets better by playing road games at higher RPI teams.