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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby TheAsianSensation » February 20th, 2019, 9:09 pm

MSUDuo wrote:Getting punked by the refs and UNI in our own house.

Just weren't ready to wear the target.

Fun fact: Kelly Self did both Drake/Bradley and Missouri St/UNI in back to back days.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby isumvc1 » February 20th, 2019, 9:10 pm

goodness, just another whacky night in MVC play

Loyola over Evansville

Indiana State routes Illinois State

UNI wins at 1st place Missouri State

Valpo escapes the SIU comeback to win

So now a bunch of teams at 7-8 in MVC play
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby Bulldog2323 » February 20th, 2019, 9:11 pm

1) Drake, Loyola (10-5)
3) Missouri State (9-6)
4) Northern Iowa (8-7)
5) Bradley, Valparaiso, Illinois State, Southern Illinois (7-8)
9) Indiana State (6-9)
10) Evansville (4-11)

I was rooting for UNI for Drake's interests and I feel bad for Missouri State. Obviously the shooting didn't help but you got screwed by officiating too.

Big winner tonight has to be UNI. With the win they get above the mass tie, if they had lost they would have fallen below it. Big loser has to be MIssouri State, they'll need a lot of help now to win the MVC regular season.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby Bear4Life » February 20th, 2019, 9:24 pm

MNPanthers wrote:29.6 FG%, 2-18 on 3 pointers, 50% on FT. None of those stats had to do with the refs. You would have lost to any valley team with those stats by a wide margin


I thought the officiating was again terrible, but you are 100% correct. We couldn’t buy a bucket and didn’t deserve to win this game. Credit to UNI for great D and just being more physical than us. I was afraid our new “style” wouldn’t work tonight against a team that invented it.

Bears will bounce back Saturday and stay in the race, but I think this one will cost us the title.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby Khan4Cats » February 20th, 2019, 9:43 pm

Bear4Life wrote:
MNPanthers wrote:29.6 FG%, 2-18 on 3 pointers, 50% on FT. None of those stats had to do with the refs. You would have lost to any valley team with those stats by a wide margin


I thought the officiating was again terrible, but you are 100% correct. We couldn’t buy a bucket and didn’t deserve to win this game. Credit to UNI for great D and just being more physical than us. I was afraid our new “style” wouldn’t work tonight against a team that invented it.

Bears will bounce back Saturday and stay in the race, but I think this one will cost us the title.


You are one game back of Drake, who still has to come to your place, and Loyola, who has to come to UNI. Still a decent chance you end with a share and hold the tie-breaker.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby davidfast » February 20th, 2019, 10:11 pm

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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby Go4Valley » February 20th, 2019, 10:28 pm

MSU didnt get offense from Cook Kreklow or Webster. Shot bad from 3pt land. Refs were bad but Valley play is unpredictable. UNI with the sweep. Still alot to be decided. I dont think anyone team will win out.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby Blers » February 20th, 2019, 10:29 pm

MSUDuo wrote:Just weren't ready to wear the target.


Wanna join our support group? I feel like a few teams can say that this year. Oof.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » February 21st, 2019, 12:03 am

I love how the final 2.5 minutes of the Mo State broadcast is essentially a sitcom of the mics picking up fans pelting the officials with insults.
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Re: MVC Week 8

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » February 21st, 2019, 12:21 am

BEARZ77 wrote:Side bar to this[ and I'm not inferring there was anything other than typical home court cooking happening with Drake/Bradley] but I read a recent report about the NBA official who got fired for betting on games he officiated. They were never able to prove he did anything but bet, and the NBA was adamant that there was no way to throw games because of all the scrutiny[ obviously they were very much wanting to hold up the games integrity]. But in this article it made it clear he had impacted games and it was actually pretty easy . Remember, for gambling purposes [ which would be the whole issue in fixing games] you don't have to alter who wins or loses , just the outcome vs the betting line. Because of the amount of points scored and the way in which they are, basketball is a very easy game to impact most games by +/- 6 points. And the simple way you do it is with fouls. In most sports you can make all the calls you want one way or the other, and it still doesn't guarantee scoring, but in basketball where you can reasonably predict a 65%-75% rate of return in points on foul calls it's not that hard at all. The article also listed how calling fouls on specific players early could of course impact things, and how a respected official in working with his crew could plant a perspective in their minds prior to a game, like " this team likes to use a lot of high screening action but have a tendency to be moving, so let's stay on top of that" etc. But the main thing I got from the article was how very, very, easy it is to not be detected , to even grade out high for games, and yet be actively fixing games as a basketball official simply by how you manipulated foul calls. It was initially reported that the issue with the NBA official was short- term, but it turned out it was for 4 years running with billions of dollars having been bet in his games by gambling syndicates who had inside knowledge of what he was doing.


‘02 WCF is probably the most tangibly proven rig. LA shot 18 more 4Q FT’s when Sacramento was on the verge of closing them out. Sacramento should’ve won the NBA that year.
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Lots of suspicion around Portland Trail Blazers ‘00 WCF vs LA.
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