Missouri State @Indiana State 1/19

[UNI]

A bunch of whining. ISUb took care of business last night and came out with the win. It was a foul...whether it should've been called or not, that's an opinion. I feel that a foul is a foul and it should be called if there is one.

Go game ISUb. Hopefully the Panthers can get a W from you in Cedar Falls.

[Kip Dynamite]

A bunch of whining. ISUb took care of business last night and came out with the win. It was a foul...whether it should've been called or not, that's an opinion. I feel that a foul is a foul and it should be called if there is one. Go game ISUb. Hopefully the Panthers can get a W from you in Cedar Falls.

Give me a break UNI. If you really believe that then there would be a foul called on nearly every possession of every game.

[UNI]

A bunch of whining. ISUb took care of business last night and came out with the win. It was a foul...whether it should've been called or not, that's an opinion. I feel that a foul is a foul and it should be called if there is one. Go game ISUb. Hopefully the Panthers can get a W from you in Cedar Falls.

Give me a break UNI. If you really believe that then there would be a foul called on nearly every possession of every game.

If it's a foul...call it. You can't just pick and choose when you want to call them. From the looks of it, the refs had been calling fouls that night. Obviously there are things that play into it, and that is why some fouls aren't called. However, if a ref feels that a foul has altered the shot of a player, why would you hold your whistle just because it happens to be at the end of the game. What if he had missed the shot and didn't get the foul called? How many people would be pissed then??

[TNMSUFAN]

I always thought the most crybaby fans lived in Wichita.................man was I wrong. They really live a few miles east of Wichita in "Springpatch". The officials cost them the game, not the fact that the Bears were tired and didn't defend the perimeter in the 2nd half like the first half (yeah I know, these are 20-22 year old kids and they don't get tired) total BS.......they were tired and bumped and reached all night with no call UNTIL THE VERY LAST PLAY OF THE GAME. The official had enough guts to finally call it. The Bears are a good team, their fans are crybaby excuse-makers and the Sycamores won last night. If you give no credit for the ISU win then you disrespect your own team in your effort to justify why they lost.

Oh and by the way, the Bears short bench will continue to hamper them in their attempt to keep pace at the top of the league.

We were so tired we scored 10 straight possessions in your building after you took a 5pt lead with 7 minutes to go until Ricks (who was also fouled) missed his bunny. Ricks makes a lay up and you lose! Run your smack after you play some road games and win games @ WSU, @ CU, @ UNI, @ MSU, @ SIU, etc.

[Sycamore_DevilDog]

There are 40 minutes in a game…..I think we can all agree on that.

A foul is a foul is a foul, whether in the first one second of the game or the last one second.

The referee that made the call made the correct call……..he had a split second to make the correct decision ignoring whether the shot was made or not. If missed, we go to overtime. If made and plus one, there is still .6 seconds remaining in a 40 minute game and the free throw is awarded.

To think the game was decided in the last 4.3 seconds by a drive to the basket accompanied by a foul is ludicrous as it completely ignores every play made or not made in between. The outcome is the result of total play. Both teams went at each other the entire game like warriors……like Ali vs
Fraizer.

Hell yes, it was a tough way to lose a hotly contested big game for both squads. The shoe could have been on the other foot and ISU-B fans would probably, including me, be upset and grabbing at whatever to explain away a tough loss to a team that had been shown absolutely no respect by ALL MVC fans.

We knew we had a deep and talented team with a blend of very good red shirt Freshmen and some veteran leadership. Three FRESHMEN played significant minutes last night. On the bench was another 6' 9" Freshmen who is being red shirted this year. He was a member of last year's Indiana All-Star team that played in the annual Indiana-Kentucky All-Star game.

McKenna had a plan to build a program when he became ISU's coach and he did so by red shirting 4 Freshman last year. Those four coupled with Freshman Steve McWhorter and this year's red shirt Freshman are part of that plan now being led by Coach Lansing.

These young players will be joined next year by Freshmen Justin Gant, 6' 9", of Terre Haute North. Gant will most likely be a member of this year's Indiana All Star team. Joining Gant next year will be two other recruits whose names escape me. One is a 6' 3" guard from Kileen, TX who scored 27 pts. in a recent outing. The other is a 6' 6" slasher from Indianapolis who is currently playing at one of the top basketball academy schools. He had earlier verballed to Univ. Of Cincinnati, but withdrew that to play for ISU and Coach Lansing when Lansing was named Coach as Lansing had recruited him and a bond had been established.

A few days ago, 6' 9" Khristian Smith, a Junior at Sullivan, IN High School announced that he will bring his game to ISU-B at the conclusion of his high school career.

There is a saying that information is power. Hopefully, MVC fans have more information about what is being built at ISU-B. As with anything in life, only time will tell the story. But from an ISU perspective, things are definitely on the up swing and to paraphrase a WSU saying, "Things are so bright i have to wear shades."

Hopefully, my post has informed all MVC.com followers and fans more about what is being built at ISU-B. I'm sure other MVC schools have their own stories to tell and all of us are not privy to that information. And that's all well and good as it only makes the MVC a great basketball conference.

[musiccitybulldog]

I think I have had it with video replays. It seems calls after video replay have become even more creative this year. The respective organizations deem the referee's qualified, the referee's are paid, let them call the game and thats it. Live by the decisions.

Either do away with the replay or make the officials define what they are looking for.. and ..define the result can either be X or Y before reviewing.

I saw one game this year when a Broadcaster was even giving his opinion on the review.

If the officials aren't capable of calling the game/making decisions or getting in position to make calls, then let them get out of the business.

Last night I was listening on the computer to the ISUb/MSU game so I was at the mercy of the ISU/b announcers(who did a fine job). The ISU broadcast team were trying to decide what the referee's were reveiwing involving the games final seconds. It took a long time and was suspenseful. Sure it made it for exciting listening. It seemed since it was taking so long maybe ISU/b wasn't going to get the basket, then ISU/b did finally get the points. The big excitement was whether it was going to be an overtime or not. Then and out of no where came this foul and a shot. So as far as an independant listener and MVC basketball fan, it was about as exciting as it could get. I don't think I have ever listened to such an exciting and controversial game ending. But I could definately understand how those on the losing end of the situation would have a lot of questions.

[unipanther99]

Musiccitybulldog there have been some unusual replay calls by officials this year. With the new conference replay system, the officials have access to cameras we don't necessarily see on TV. I don't think that has much to do with this game, but it's something to keep in mind.

[dgreenwell3]

I am going to be honest...I am just happy that other fans are the ones bitching about being homered...we have been homered and not getting homer calls at our own house for soooooo long...geaux trees!

[MSUDuo]

Syc_DD, most of us have no problem with the foul being called.

I agree, if a foul is a foul in the first second of the game, it is a foul in the last second of the game. But you had better call it evenly. The fact that a more obvious foul was ignored just 10 seconds before against Ricks that effected his shot is what has most ticked off. If you are going to swallow your whistle once, do it twice. No reason not to.

But you are right, there were plenty of other chances to keep us out of that situation and we didn't. Weems should have just let him go or should have fouled him hard enough to keep the ball out of the hoop. I don't know what Mallet was trying to do, he should have done everything in his power to keep his man in front of him even if it meant fouling him and making him hit 2 throws at the line to tie the game...

We will see you in Springfield. I fully believe that you will finish in the top half but you aren't going to challenge for the title.

[MSUDuo]

A bunch of whining. ISUb took care of business last night and came out with the win. It was a foul...whether it should've been called or not, that's an opinion. I feel that a foul is a foul and it should be called if there is one. Go game ISUb. Hopefully the Panthers can get a W from you in Cedar Falls.

Give me a break UNI. If you really believe that then there would be a foul called on nearly every possession of every game.

If it's a foul...call it. You can't just pick and choose when you want to call them. From the looks of it, the refs had been calling fouls that night. Obviously there are things that play into it, and that is why some fouls aren't called. However, if a ref feels that a foul has altered the shot of a player, why would you hold your whistle just because it happens to be at the end of the game. What if he had missed the shot and didn't get the foul called? How many people would be pissed then??

If it effected his shot, then call it. It obviously did not. I would have had no problem with the ref making a call after seeing the shot missed if he thought the foul had effected it. At least then you let them go to overtime and decide it.

Where was the foul call on Ricks' shot that had an effect on the game? Call it both ways is all I am asking.