Catholic Basketball League

[jaybydna]

So if this new conference conservatively gets 5 teams in, 2 win first round and 1 goes to Sweet 16, that is 8 units in one year where the MVC has 9 in the last 5. Then the same thing happens next year, the new conference is splitting 16 units in two years versus maybe 4 for the MVC. Easy choice.

Don't get me wrong. If it is a choice between A10 and MVC, I would want to stay in the MVC. If the MVC schools could step up and get 5 in the dance in a single year, I may also be inclined to want to stay. However some members are reducing investment versus increasing, and that does not bode well for the next 5 years. I love the MVC and will be sad if we have to leave, and I am certainly not trying to kick the rest of the schools in the back, but numbers are numbers.

[saluki762]

If you want to use a useful time frame, it should be 6 years, because if I am not mistaken NCAA units are averaged and paid out over a rolling 6 year window. For instance, this year ('12-'13) will be the last year that the MVC receives any money form NCAA units from the '07-'08 season.

I believe this to be true as well.

[MoValley John]

If you want to use a useful time frame, it should be 6 years, because if I am not mistaken NCAA units are averaged and paid out over a rolling 6 year window. For instance, this year ('12-'13) will be the last year that the MVC receives any money form NCAA units from the '07-'08 season.

I believe this to be true as well.

Thanks, Evansville! Now if Creighton and possibly Wichita State get lifelines out of this mess, don't be mad at them. Look inward and enjoy adding a few Dakota schools and possibly UNO to what will be a steaming pile of a conference.

[jwa123]

If you want to use a useful time frame, it should be 6 years, because if I am not mistaken NCAA units are averaged and paid out over a rolling 6 year window. For instance, this year ('12-'13) will be the last year that the MVC receives any money form NCAA units from the '07-'08 season.

I believe this to be true as well.

Thanks, Evansville! Now if Creighton and possibly Wichita State get lifelines out of this mess, don't be mad at them. Look inward and enjoy adding a few Dakota schools and possibly UNO to what will be a steaming pile of a conference.

Then you wouldn't be "MoValley John" anymore.

[BCPanther]

If you want to use a useful time frame, it should be 6 years, because if I am not mistaken NCAA units are averaged and paid out over a rolling 6 year window. For instance, this year ('12-'13) will be the last year that the MVC receives any money form NCAA units from the '07-'08 season.

I believe this to be true as well.

Thanks, Evansville! Now if Creighton and possibly Wichita State get lifelines out of this mess, don't be mad at them. Look inward and enjoy adding a few Dakota schools and possibly UNO to what will be a steaming pile of a conference.

You left out SIUE and SEMO.

If Creighton goes, WSU starts looking hard. Illinois State and UNI head to the MAC. Bradley and Drake try to find some institutions that are more similar to them.

All of a sudden you are building a league around SIU (broke), MSU (extra broke), Indiana State (no commitment), and Evansville (never should have been invited). Congrats, you are the Summitt League without the programs that are willing to invest and move up (NDSU, SDSU).

[DoubleJayAlum]

Illinois State and UNI head to the MAC.

Out of curiosity, if the Big East footballers join the WAC, including Temple, is there anymore room for anyone else?

[Haha]

I am really starting to believe that they will go with 12 and Creighton is gone.

I hope the school presidents/ADs and Elgin don't over react and just sit tight. Hopefully they don't pull any knee jerk reactions.

[MoValley John]

I am really starting to believe that they will go with 12 and Creighton is gone.

I hope the school presidents/ADs and Elgin don't over react and just sit tight. Hopefully they don't pull any knee jerk reactions.

I think the longer this drags out, the larger the conference. More and more it seems to me that the seven schools are having little trouble finding quality, interested schools. 12 seems like the small number, 14 or 16 is quite possible.

I have also been pondering Fr. Lannon's (Creighton's current president) comments, or lack thereof. His "No comment" lends me to believe that there are serious discussions taking place. If Creighton was out of the mix, I would think that he would have quickly denied any rumors and stated his commitment to the Valley. That hasn't happened. Right now, I'm saying Creighton is 55-60% in the new league. If it grows to 14 members, I'd give odds that Wichita State is seriously in the mix.

[Haha]

Lol, WSU will not be in any mix. I'm a shocker fan but I can look at the collection of teams and see which one doesn't match. The public school with basic state entrance requirements all the way in Kansas. I get that and am not offended.

The Valley losing CU is a big blow but when you step back and look at it just stay at 9. Right now I would call the Valley a 1.5 bid league. I don't see that changing with CU leaving. I have to believe several programs are capable of at large bids in the Valley, WSU being one. So you can still easily see one team earning an at large during the season and somebody different winning the league tournament. To me though the most important thing if CU leaves is to hold at 9. Do not go grabbing anybody else.

There are some solid teams like say a Belmont, Murray State, maybe even an Oral Bob but in reality while they might be solid they will not bring added value. It won't take the Valley from a 1.5 bid league to say a 2.5 bid league. It will just be one more to split the money with.

[havoc]

All of a sudden you are building a league around ... Evansville (never should have been invited).

If we want to look at six year windows, the six years prior to joining the MVC, Evansville made three trips to the NCAA tournament, won one game, went to the NIT once, and averaged around 10,000 fans per game. If someone like that wanted to join the Valley today, I don't think very many people would have to many objections