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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby DoubleJayAlum » December 15th, 2012, 9:37 am

havoc wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
All of a sudden you are building a league around ... Evansville (never should have been invited).


If we want to look at six year windows, the six years prior to joining the MVC, Evansville made three trips to the NCAA tournament, won one game, went to the NIT once, and averaged around 10,000 fans per game. If someone like that wanted to join the Valley today, I don't think very many people would have to many objections


A great illustration.

If I were to select teams to build a conference, past results would be a consideration, but not a large one. The biggest consideration I would make would be financial viability and stability. Ask these questions:

1) Can the school afford to invest in the program at the same level of the other members?
2) Can the school afford to compensate coaches at the same levels as other members?
3) What are the facilities like? Is there a budget to keep adding or improving them?
4) What is the school's plan to stay competitive at the highest levels of the conference? Is there a plan?
5) What is the level of community support in the program?
6) Where do athletics fall in the school's culture? What percentage of the student body goes to games?
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby havoc » December 15th, 2012, 9:52 am

DoubleJayAlum wrote:
havoc wrote:If we want to look at six year windows, the six years prior to joining the MVC, Evansville made three trips to the NCAA tournament, won one game, went to the NIT once, and averaged around 10,000 fans per game. If someone like that wanted to join the Valley today, I don't think very many people would have to many objections


A great illustration.

If I were to select teams to build a conference, past results would be a consideration, but not a large one. The biggest consideration I would make would be financial viability and stability. Ask these questions:

1) Can the school afford to invest in the program at the same level of the other members?
2) Can the school afford to compensate coaches at the same levels as other members?
3) What are the facilities like? Is there a budget to keep adding or improving them?
4) What is the schools plan to stay competitive at the highest levels of the conference? Is there a plan?
5) What is the level of community support in the program?


I would think past results would be highly correlated with each of these. If a school can afford to invest highly in the program but those investments do not bring success what is the point? Again, if you pay a coach well and results don't follow, what is the point?
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby DoubleJayAlum » December 15th, 2012, 10:25 am

havoc wrote:I would think past results would be highly correlated with each of these. If a school can afford to invest highly in the program but those investments do not bring success what is the point? Again, if you pay a coach well and results don't follow, what is the point?


If you pay a coach well and results don't follow, you need to replace the coach.

If a school can afford to invest in a program (and is actually doing that investment) but results aren't forthcoming, you need to evaluate where you are spending because you aren't spending in the correct areas.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby squirrel » December 15th, 2012, 11:04 am

Dave Reynolds just tweeted a western division is in the works, if the specifics can be agreed upon. Add San Fran into the mix with Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby Jet915 » December 15th, 2012, 11:28 am

squirrel wrote:Dave Reynolds just tweeted a western division is in the works, if the specifics can be agreed upon. Add San Fran into the mix with Gonzaga and St. Mary's.
https://twitter.com/DaveReynolds2


I highly doubt San Fran is in the mix which hurts his credibility. San Fran won national titles in like the 50s but play in a high school gym and haven't been relevent since. I can see Gonzaga and St. Marys (St. Mary's doesn't bring much either, they play in a high school gym but Gonzaga needs a travel partner). People from the Georgetown message board seem to think it will look like this:

An official announcement will likely come as soon as tomorrow Im told.

Additionally, the latest report I heard would be a 14 team League - 2 Divisions:

East
Georgetown
Villanova
St Johns
Seton Hall
Providence
Dayton
Xavier

West
Marquette
Depaul
St. Louis
St. Marys
Creighton
Butler
Gonzaga

That is one crazy good league though.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby Drakey » December 15th, 2012, 1:14 pm

That is essentially every private school in the country that does not have a football team and that is dedicated to having a legitimate basketball program. Bradley might be an exception, but I'm not privy to their commitment level.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby BradleyBrave » December 15th, 2012, 1:16 pm

Drakey wrote:That is essentially every private school in the country that does not have a football team and that is dedicated to having a legitimate basketball program. Bradley might be an exception, but I'm not privy to their commitment level.


We are committed now. I am not sure we were from 2002-2010.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby MVCfans » December 15th, 2012, 1:24 pm

Catholic 7 have made it official via a release that they are leaving the Big East.
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby Drakey » December 15th, 2012, 1:28 pm

Isn't it kind of disgusting to base a basketball league on religion?
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Re: Catholic Basketball League

Postby saluki762 » December 15th, 2012, 1:29 pm

Drakey wrote:Isn't it kind of disgusting to base a basketball league on religion?

How so?
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