BEARZ77 wrote:Aargh and MoValley, I think you overlook a very possible scenario that would scare me if I was WSU. Let's say hypothetically a coach[ MT] is told by someone who owns an investment firm but also runs a AAU program, if you invest $$$ with me, I will guarantee that your University is hyped and promoted to the players in my AAU program and that over 2-4 years I guarantee at least 1-2 three star signings.You're just investing money in a good company and I'm just making sure kids in my program know about you. Players sign with Universities, not coaches as we all know when coaches leave, and coaches are paid representatives of said Universities. So now the process is initiated , not with a paticular player, but with an AAU program. A year later the coach[MT] leaves that University but players have been and are still being promoted to attend said University. One shows interest and the new coaching staff gets involved and he ultimately signs. Neither the player or the new coaching staff would necessarily know anything about the process; all the player knows is his AAU coaches have always been high on a couple Universities and talked them up to him.
Clearly that player has been bought to a degree, not directly and not with his knowledge, but the University has profitted from it's paid employee buying thru investment dollars influence in the recruiting process, and that would clearly be an NCAA violation by the University signing the player. Not saying that's what happened, just saying it would be premature to think because Murrey signed after Turgeon was gone that his dollars couldn't be involved. I don't think that is a far fetched possibility of how things operate.
I hate to be the one to break this to you, but that scenario is pretty much how recruiting works in the current century. It's not enforced to influence an AAU coach (even with money) and that AAU coach then influences his players to play with schools that have paid off the coach. It's enforced if the AAU coach pays the players with money that can be tracked to the school that gave the AAU coach the money. That generally requires an outright admission by the player and the AAU coach.
I tried to point that out earlier with the example of KU funneling about $10 mill to AAU coaches. About 5 McD's AA players on those teams ended up at KU during the time those coaches were getting millions from KU.
The July evaluation period led to AAU teams being formed. Unethical AAU coaches seems to be about the norm. The field is so lucrative that the representation of HS athletes is now a competitive field.
Wichita has produced a lot of highly regarded D1 FB players lately. We had a guy working with them to help them with their SAT's and arrange and coordinate visits for them. If a school wanted to talk to those recruits, they about had to go through that guy. If a school wanted a visit from a potential player, they had to go through that guy.
It was never explained how that guy made that his full-time job when he wasn't being paid by anybody. No laws were broken. No NCAA violations occurred, but I think it was the Kansas High School Athletic Association that decided to ban any player who had any contact with him. After that happened, all the players he had been working with transferred out of the colleges where they were playing. If you think all those transfers were just a coinidence, I will accuse you of being naive.
