Big 12 implosion again? A&M and Oklahoma looking at the SEC

[shockem]

Try and get your kids into Texas or A&M and you'll see how many they decline each year. While not selective like the privates, you still have to graduate top 10% of your class to be guaranteed admittance just due to the sheer volume of applicants each year.

[MoValley John]

Try and get your kids into Texas or A&M and you'll see how many they decline each year. While not selective like the privates, you still have to graduate top 10% of your class to be guaranteed admittance just due to the sheer volume of applicants each year.

But I did finish in the top 10%, it wasn't that difficult. In fact, I really didn't try. I hated school, I never studied, not even for tests. I simply showed up, did the minimum homework, always turned it in and received A's and B's. I hated school so much that I took time off between high school and college to join the service. I was a slacker in the Navy as well. Slacking, staying out of trouble and simply obeying orders earned 4.0 evals! All that did was get me accepted into a private college in which I also finished in the top 10%.

80% of success is simply showing up.

[MoValley John]

Back on topic, I was reading Orangebloods and Texas fans are freaking out! In one breath, they say if aTm leaves, no big deal, and in the other breath they are bemoaning what will happen to their little empire should the Aggies bolt. They are even imploring the state legislature to intervene.

I rarely read Orangebloods, but when crap like this unfolds, it is a good read. Here is one funny, funny post:

Re: Stop kidding yourselves, you'd miss A&M if they left.

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Oh God, I just read your post and freaked out. if A&M leaves those folks are in for a surprise. Some old boy in Mississippi will be asking where the Cheerleaders are like I asked my Church of God friend where the piano was.


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[MVCfans]

So if Texas A&M and Florida State join the SEC, what are the next dominoes to fall?

[MVCfans]

Big 12 commish Beebe thinks Houston could take the spot vacated by Texas A&M. So who does Conference USA try to get if that happens?

[DoubleJayAlum]

Big 12 commish Beebe thinks Houston could take the spot vacated by Texas A&M. So who does Conference USA try to get if that happens?

Is this before or after they add Missouri St?

[MVCfans]

Big 12 commish Beebe thinks Houston could take the spot vacated by Texas A&M. So who does Conference USA try to get if that happens?

Is this before or after they add Missouri St?

There are a couple of questions if A&M bolts the Big 12.

1) Big 12 adds Houston. CUSA could stand pat or try to add someone else.
2) IF CUSA decides to expand, not sure who'd they look at.
3) If Big 12 implodes and Texas goes independent, what happens to the remaining schools?

[BirdmanBB]

If the big 12 implodes, my guess is that the MWC conference will go hard after a bunch of their teams and push for the b12's bowl bid status. It would be their best chance to do so. They already have the mountain network in place and that could grow immensely if it were to happen. (TCU and BYU would be pissed that they left). I would do that if I were the MWC commish. Likely a couple might go to the PAC-12 though. No doubt there would be a auto bowl bid that both the MWC and probably CUSA will go after hard. MWC would be in a better position though.

[SubGod22]

aTm to SEC
KU to Big East
MU to Big East
Iowa State to MAC
KSU to MWC/WAC (I don't know who's who out there)
TT to MWC/WAC
0U to SEC
OSU to CUSA/SEC
Baylor to CUSA
Texas to PAC10 or INDY.

If it were to implode I think I may have a few of those right. Depends how badly some conferences want to expand.

[MoValley John]

Big 12 commish Beebe thinks Houston could take the spot vacated by Texas A&M. So who does Conference USA try to get if that happens?

Is this before or after they add Missouri St?

There are a couple of questions if A&M bolts the Big 12.

1) Big 12 adds Houston. CUSA could stand pat or try to add someone else.
2) IF CUSA decides to expand, not sure who'd they look at.
3) If Big 12 implodes and Texas goes independent, what happens to the remaining schools?

aTm is in a tough position right now. If they don't go, they will be humiliated on a national stage, plus, they have ruined whatever goodwill they have built in the Big XII. If they stay, they will be perpetually villified. Keep in mind, Texas hates aTm, in more ways than outsiders could ever comprehend. As for the rest of the Big XII schools, aTm gets a larger portion of the revenue pie than every school but UT and OU. And of the three, UT OU and aTm, aTm was the only one to take the exit money from Nebraska and Colorado. With the bigger pie in the tv deal, both UT and and OU gave up their share of the Nebraska and Colorado money to their weaker sister schools, aTm kept their share. Sometimes you do too much damage to repair the burnt bridge. aTm may have done too much damage to stay.

On to realignment, if aTm leaves, even with UT and OU, the Big XII is really weak. Possibly too weak for the networks to keep the present tv deal. Adding Houston, Rice, UTEP or any other weaker Texas school isn't going to help the mess. Somehow, if they could drag in Arkansas, that would be a patch, but Arkansas already hates Texas and the way Texas does business. Arkansas isn't enamored with the way things have worked out in the SEC, but they just might hate Texas a lot more. A good get would be for the Big XII to somehow pull TCU from the Big East. The Big XII would be a better fit for TCU and add another good team in the Big XII. With TCU being sgunned when the Big XII was formed, bringing in TCU might be next to impossible, but politics in Texas can pull off a lot of things thought impossible. That said, adding Houston would be like trying to put a band aid on a bullet wound, a valiant effort, but not much good.

As for C-USA, if the Big XII poached a school or two, Missouri State would be a viable option if.... they actually had a football stadium ready for play, already had begun preparing for the move and already begun fundraising. C-USA could poach Iowa State, Kansas State or Baylor. Baylor would be a great fit, honestly.

The odds of Texas going independent are next to nill. They have already publiclly stated that they have no intention of going independent, they already studied the issue and it won't work. If push comes to shove and the Big XII implodes and Texas can't get into the Pac 10 or Big 10, Texas has interest in forming a new conference with OU, Notre Dame, BYU and a few others. Furthermore, they hit a homerun with the ESPN-LHN deal. The problem is, while UT has made a $300 million deal, ESPN has not been able to sell it. Not to advertisers or cable outlets. Football is only a month away and they haven't secured contracts with a vast majority of cable services in Texas and virtually no cable outlets outside of Texas. There is interest in Texas, but that interest, as surprising as it is to ESPN and UT, does not extend much beyond the Texas state line. The interest expands a little into Oklahoma, not a big deal. ESPN is hemorrhaging money on the deal. If the Big XII falls, Texas moves to another conference or goes independent, ESPN has an out clause. As of now, ESPN would jump on it. Texas would be out $300,000,000. Independent isn't going to happen. Texas hopes and prays to be able to piecemeal the Big XII together the entire length of the LHN. Be damned if it's the crappiest conference in America, they want ESPN's money.