MVCfans.com Predictions - spilt from poll

[valleychamp]

The answer is, it didn't take very long.

[WSUbballer]

If 13 years isn't considered very long, then so be it.

[unipanther99]

This quote doesn't make any sense. What's with this thread and Panther fans striking out?..

When you pull out the "MVC has sucked the past three years" card, that will usually get you a reaction from Panther fans.

[musiccitybulldog]

The 11 people who have voted for WSU in 3rd (so far) are either too filled with hate to admit the truth or they're delusional.

Those people must have some inside information that indicates WSU will play their second unit unit most of the year. The second unit would be:

Aaron Ellis, Gabe Blair, Ben Smith, David Kyles, and Demetric Williams. There's only one newcomer in that group and he's a physical 6'5" JuCo wing with a good track record of hitting 3's. That group might finish 3rd.

Do you think that team will be able to win in Des Moines this year?

I based my question on that no one on the current WSU team has experienced a win in Des Moines regardless of first or second unit.

As far as the Valley being tougher or weaker? Winning the Valley title is always tough. We had a member of the league knock off a top seed in the NCAA tournament and play a Big 10 team tough. Even losing players this year, you can't discount UNI's organization made it happen last year.Teams that may have not been as competitive 5 years ago, are now. There are several possible new "stars". Year after year we see surprises, that is why we all enjoy it. I think it will be far from a cake walk for any team. I think the "surprise factor" in the conference is more prevalent than the conference being measurable weaker or stronger.

[DoubleJayAlum]

The 11 people who have voted for WSU in 3rd (so far) are either too filled with hate to admit the truth or they're delusional.

Those people must have some inside information that indicates WSU will play their second unit unit most of the year. The second unit would be:

Aaron Ellis, Gabe Blair, Ben Smith, David Kyles, and Demetric Williams. There's only one newcomer in that group and he's a physical 6'5" JuCo wing with a good track record of hitting 3's. That group might finish 3rd.

Do you think that team will be able to win in Des Moines this year?

I based my question on that no one on the current WSU team has experienced a win in Des Moines regardless of first or second unit.

Actually, considering WSU's road record the last 4-5 years, there are probably quite a few MVC venues that can make a similar claim. I know Omaha certainly can.

EDIT: You know, the more I think about it, there are probably players on WSU's roster that weren't even ALIVE the last time WSU won in Omaha.

[WSUbballer]

This quote doesn't make any sense. What's with this thread and Panther fans striking out?..

When you pull out the "MVC has sucked the past three years" card, that will usually get you a reaction from Panther fans.

And when Panther fans begin piling on WSU fans for no reason other than to pile, you'll get a reaction from them.

And if you think the Valley hasn't trended downward since the mid-2000's, you're blinded by the purple too.

[WSUbballer]

I noticed you ignored my questions. It's hard to respond back to something after you know you got owned.

By the way, it takes big ones to have to change your moniker from the previous message board, UNIfight.

[WSUbballer]

Actually, considering WSU's road record the last 4-5 years, there are probably quite a few MVC venues that can make a similar claim. I know Omaha certainly can.

EDIT: You know, the more I think about it, there are probably players on WSU's roster that weren't even ALIVE the last time WSU won in Omaha.

Considering we had a pretty bad downturn after 2006, I wouldn't be surprised that the road record dipped. However, in the timeframe you gave, I would bet that our road record in the last 5 years is in the top half of the Valley. I'm sure time is not an issue with you so why don't you figure the last 5 years' road records of teams and get back to me.

I figured with how bad we were the last 4 years and how totally awesome the BJ's have been the last 4 years that Creighton would have done better than 1-3 against WSU in Wichita in that time period.

[BU fan]

The 11 people who have voted for WSU in 3rd (so far) are either too filled with hate to admit the truth or they're delusional.

Those people must have some inside information that indicates WSU will play their second unit unit most of the year. The second unit would be:

Aaron Ellis, Gabe Blair, Ben Smith, David Kyles, and Demetric Williams. There's only one newcomer in that group and he's a physical 6'5" JuCo wing with a good track record of hitting 3's. That group might finish 3rd.

Now who is delusional? That group of bricklayers might be lucky to average 50 points per game.

[snoopj]

Considering we had a pretty bad downturn after 2006, I wouldn't be surprised that the road record dipped. However, in the timeframe you gave, I would bet that our road record in the last 5 years is in the top half of the Valley. I'm sure time is not an issue with you so why don't you figure the last 5 years' road records of teams and get back to me.

Just for reference, because I have a ton of stats available to me, I put the overall road records (including out of conference play) into this list. Here's the results from 2005-06 to 2009-10:

1) UNI 36-27 (0.571)
2) SIU 28-37 (0.431)
3) CU 26-37 (0.413)
4) DU 24-35 (0.407)
5) BU 26-42 (0.382)
6) WSU 22-38 (0.367)
7) MSU 24-42 (0.364)
8) Ill. State 23-41 (0.359)
9) Ind. State 18-51 (0.261)
10) UE 12-55 (0.179)

Don't know if you were looking for just conference play, but all I had was out of conference immediately available.