NBA Draft

[mvcfan]

Cleanthony had 13 points in his summer league debut last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW7UT3CLydA

[rlh04d]

Carmelo Anthony is going to resign with New York. That sucks for Cle IMO. Less playing time for sure. I could see it being valuable if Carmelo was the type of player that could mentor Cle but I don't see that happening. Carmelo is a one dimensional ( all offense/ no D) type player who has never really been a winner.

I still think Cle has a good NBA career but I don't think this bodes well for his 1st year.

Well, he definitely won't be starting. But there should be plenty of minutes behind Anthony. And Anthony will be a bigger injury risk as he gets older.

But no, Melo staying hurts Cle and helps McDermott.

[jturner38]

I disagree. Carmelo can be a all around player he just chooses not to be in some areas mainly Defense and he doesnt take on the challenge of guarding the opposite team's best player.But really he was never put in a great situation to succeed anyway so he has always had to carry the load. I think Cle will start with Melo. Remember Melo was moved to the 4 spot which allowed him to excel offensively for the past 2 seasons. He even upped his rebounding by quite alot last season. I would keep Carmelo at the 4 and play Cle at the 3. But then again it's the triangle offense so I havent looked at it enough to see if it's beneficial for Melo to stay at the 4 spot or if he gets moved back to the 3 and Cle plays 4.

[Cdizzle]

I could be Grand Czar of the World but I choose to focus on sitting on the couch watching TV and eating those multi-flavored Cheetos, which is a real strong part of my game.

You are what your actions say you are. Melo has never been "put in a great situation?" Maybe not from your perspective, but his bank account would probably disagree. He has shown no desire to do the things necessary to be on a winning team. It's not like he's a rookie bound to a contract with a crappy franchise any more.

[jturner38]

I could be Grand Czar of the World but I choose to focus on sitting on the couch watching TV and eating those multi-flavored Cheetos, which is a real strong part of my game.

You are what your actions say you are. Melo has never been "put in a great situation?" Maybe not from your perspective, but his bank account would probably disagree. He has shown no desire to do the things necessary to be on a winning team. It's not like he's a rookie bound to a contract with a crappy franchise any more.

I could breakdown everything and prove my point but it would be waste bc you probably dont care. I been following Carmelo ever since Syracuse. I was referring to a good team. His supporting cast has been god awful. No he has not been put in a situation to win. Has he limited himself, well of course, everything is not as cut and dry as it seems to be. Part of it probably was the money but he did take a small pay cut to help the knicke bc he was suppose to make 129 mil. His only other better option was to go to the Bulls but that was only through a sign and trade and Phil Jackson didnt want what the Bulls were offering so New York was the 2nd best choice, best choice long term. And I said that he chooses where he puts his effort at bc he has shown the ability and has the ability to defend etc. But again you wouldnt care or you couldnt even debate it unless you watch alot of NBA like I do.

[Rollbird5]

I could be Grand Czar of the World but I choose to focus on sitting on the couch watching TV and eating those multi-flavored Cheetos, which is a real strong part of my game.

You are what your actions say you are. Melo has never been "put in a great situation?" Maybe not from your perspective, but his bank account would probably disagree. He has shown no desire to do the things necessary to be on a winning team. It's not like he's a rookie bound to a contract with a crappy franchise any more.

I could breakdown everything and prove my point but it would be waste bc you probably dont care. I been following Carmelo ever since Syracuse. I was referring to a good team. His supporting cast has been god awful. No he has not been put in a situation to win. Has he limited himself, well of course, everything is not as cut and dry as it seems to be. Part of it probably was the money but he did take a small pay cut to help the knicke bc he was suppose to make 129 mil. His only other better option was to go to the Bulls but that was only through a sign and trade and Phil Jackson didnt want what the Bulls were offering so New York was the 2nd best choice, best choice long term. And I said that he chooses where he puts his effort at bc he has shown the ability and has the ability to defend etc. But again you wouldnt care or you couldnt even debate it unless you watch alot of NBA like I do.

Bill Simmons just wrote this article looks perfect to what you guys are debating, talks some about the best players he's played with and best teams.
http://grantland.com/features/carmelo-a ... ks-legacy/

[jturner38]

I could be Grand Czar of the World but I choose to focus on sitting on the couch watching TV and eating those multi-flavored Cheetos, which is a real strong part of my game.

You are what your actions say you are. Melo has never been "put in a great situation?" Maybe not from your perspective, but his bank account would probably disagree. He has shown no desire to do the things necessary to be on a winning team. It's not like he's a rookie bound to a contract with a crappy franchise any more.

I could breakdown everything and prove my point but it would be waste bc you probably dont care. I been following Carmelo ever since Syracuse. I was referring to a good team. His supporting cast has been god awful. No he has not been put in a situation to win. Has he limited himself, well of course, everything is not as cut and dry as it seems to be. Part of it probably was the money but he did take a small pay cut to help the knicke bc he was suppose to make 129 mil. His only other better option was to go to the Bulls but that was only through a sign and trade and Phil Jackson didnt want what the Bulls were offering so New York was the 2nd best choice, best choice long term. And I said that he chooses where he puts his effort at bc he has shown the ability and has the ability to defend etc. But again you wouldnt care or you couldnt even debate it unless you watch alot of NBA like I do.

Bill Simmons just wrote this article looks perfect to what you guys are debating, talks some about the best players he's played with and best teams.
http://grantland.com/features/carmelo-a ... ks-legacy/

That was a good article and spot on. I agree with everything he said.

[Born2Shock]

I could breakdown everything and prove my point but it would be waste bc you probably dont care. I been following Carmelo ever since Syracuse. I was referring to a good team. His supporting cast has been god awful. No he has not been put in a situation to win. Has he limited himself, well of course, everything is not as cut and dry as it seems to be. Part of it probably was the money but he did take a small pay cut to help the knicke bc he was suppose to make 129 mil. His only other better option was to go to the Bulls but that was only through a sign and trade and Phil Jackson didnt want what the Bulls were offering so New York was the 2nd best choice, best choice long term. And I said that he chooses where he puts his effort at bc he has shown the ability and has the ability to defend etc. But again you wouldnt care or you couldnt even debate it unless you watch alot of NBA like I do.

Bill Simmons just wrote this article looks perfect to what you guys are debating, talks some about the best players he's played with and best teams.
http://grantland.com/features/carmelo-a ... ks-legacy/

That was a good article and spot on. I agree with everything he said.

So he had a chance to go to Chicago and compete for a title, but for less money. Instead he chose to stay in NY and sign a bigger deal. He could have put himself in a position to win with the Bulls, but turned it down. How does that prove anything other than he is about the money?

[CaseyGarrisonforPrez]

At least Cle can look into the stands and admire LaLa from the bench! He has that going for him.

[PantherSigEp]

At least Cle can look into the stands and admire LaLa from the bench! He has that going for him.

He won't start but I'd be the sees court time. Especially since you seem to be predicting that he won't.