Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby ictjay » December 7th, 2010, 10:51 am

SubGod22 wrote:I have no doubt that he's good, but I too wonder what this says about the youth in the league...


True! Doug is not going to wooo (wu) you with his athleticism. You hardly notice he's on the court. Just plays smart around the basket and has a nose for the ball.
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby jayball » December 7th, 2010, 12:06 pm

    MINUTES PLAYED Cl G No. Avg/G
    1. Warren,Andrew-BU Sr 8 283 35.4
    2. Young,Antoine-CU Jr 8 281 35.1
    3. Ryan,Colt-UE So 6 202 33.7
    4. Dunson,Dodie-BU Sr 8 262 32.8
    5. Maniscalco,Sam-BU Sr 6 193 32.2
    6. Richard,Carl-INS Jr 8 257 32.1
    7. Kelly,Jake-INS Jr 8 251 31.4
    8. Mallett,Jermaine-MSU Sr 8 248 31.0
    9. McDermott,Doug-CU Fr 8 246 30.8
    10. Moran,Johnny-UNI Jr 6 184 30.7

Doug has been good, but he's also been getting a lot of time. I expect Rayvonte to get the FOW award soon. The way things are going people will have to gameplan for Doug and just not worry about Kenny. His numbers will go down...like the 2nd half of the UNL game when the d focused on taking him away. We sucked.

I don't really know what other teams have frosh played big minutes. hard to compare a starter getting 30 mins to a guy coming off the bench for 10-15.
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby jaybydna » December 7th, 2010, 1:49 pm

Doug had a double-double against nationally ranked BYU. This isn't a "best of the rest" award.

Still early tough. We will see what the rigors of MVC play do to him when he is facing people who actually scout and draw up plays against him.
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby DUBulldog » December 7th, 2010, 1:54 pm

SubGod22 wrote:I have no doubt that he's good, but I too wonder what this says about the youth in the league...


I think it's more about how good McDermott has been.

Rice has been putting up numbers that in most years would have won him a couple of FOW awards. Right now, he leads Drake in scoring, assists and steals and is 2nd in rebounding.

I'm not sure about any other freshmen in the league.
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby DoubleJayAlum » December 7th, 2010, 3:31 pm

I'm so happy we got this kid. He reminds me so much of a young Bob Harstad - always working and seemingly in the right place all the time.

Other than Rice, I have no idea if there are other MVC frosh making much of an impact. I do know that Doug is legit.
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby BEELINE » December 7th, 2010, 7:37 pm

A kid to keep an eye on is Nathan Scheer of Missouri State; he doesn't start, and with our balanced upperclass of 6 guys averaging close to double figures, he's never even the 3rd or 4th option. He got off to a slow start especially shooting the ball from the trey line, but I swear he looks great doing it and I haven't seen someone have as many rim out as he has so far this season. But he's as smart and fundamentally sound basketball player as we've had come to MSU in a long -time, is extremely tough and physical for a frosh, and is starting to play equal time or more than some starters.

His last two games he's played 26 and 29 minutes[ both were blow outs for us] but even w/o that probably would have gotten around 20-22 minutes. He comes in for anyone except our posts, and does a reasonable job defensively; offensively the ball goes thru him alot when he's on the court. Last two games he's averaged
10ppg, 4rbs, 5.5 assists with zero turnovers.
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby jayball » December 8th, 2010, 10:39 am

Here is a quick view of the most prominent frosh on each team, I included redshirts also.

Bradley has 2 frosh getting 17 mpg Lemon Jr. 2.8 rpg, 8.6ppg and Prosser 4.9rpg, 3.0ppg
CU McDermott 30.8 mpg, 4.9rpg, 14.5 ppg
Drake Rice 28 mpg, 4.3 rpg, 12.3 ppg
ISU Red Ekey 18 mpg, 3 rpg, 3.4 ppg
ISU Blue Odum 26 mpg, 2.7 rpg, 6.6 ppg
MSU Scheer 19.8 mpg 2.4 rpg, 5 ppg
SIU has all jucos right?
UE Jahr 10 mpg, 2 rpg, 4 ppg
UNI Rank 13 mpg, 3.8 rpg, 3.3ppg (Do you guys really have 8 frosh on the team?)
WSU Hamilton 3.5 mpg, .5 rpg, 2.0 ppg

As of now (which is really early) McD, Rice, and Lemon Jr have been most productive and it sounds like Scheer is improving quickly . Any other impressions of these guys from their team's fans?
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby valleychamp » December 8th, 2010, 10:55 am

Yes we have a bunch of freshman but we brought in a few guys last year as walk-ons which will likely only be used as practice players.
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby 45otseoj » December 9th, 2010, 1:26 pm

jayball wrote:Any other impressions of these guys from their team's fans?

Ekey is already a crowd favorite. His numbers have been slashed and burned since Wilkins became eligible, and it's really ashame. Jank won't play 3 bigs, and our most explosive players warms the bench.

Thru 9 games: 16.6 mpg, 3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.7 bpg, 1 spg, .8 topg

Leads the conference in blocks.
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Re: Doug McDermott - frosh all MVC?

Postby oneNEIGHBOR » December 9th, 2010, 1:51 pm

jayball wrote:WSU Hamilton 3.5 mpg, .5 rpg, 2.0 ppg


Hamilton is a beast. He should get FOTY with his dunk he had the last time he played. Too bad he has only played 2 times this season... Wish he would not have hurt his ankle at the start of the year, he might of been able to get in the rotation.
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