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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby BEARZ77 » February 9th, 2019, 8:57 am

BCPanther wrote:Agreed, he's done a much better job with not forcing things as the year has gone on. He's not pulling up from 30 feet anymore, lol. That part of his game will come but I'm not sure the league has seen a freshman this talented in a while. Going to be the first freshman to average 15 in 21 years.


Green is a very talented scorer/shooter, but his overall game isn't close to the level some players had as freshmen, players like McDermott, Shamett, and even Freeman this year to name just a few. McDermott averaged 14.9 but with 7 rbs and excellent shooting % across the board. Shamett if you don't consider the year he only played parts of 3 games, was at about 12 ppg, but his shooting percents and assists totals were excellent and he could defend. Green is good, could be an elite scorer by the time it's all said and done, but I think when you "homer " him with comments like the one above, it just sets him up for criticisms that he really doesn't deserve.

My observations having watched him in probably about 10 games or so is his combination of size and high release combined with decent ball handling make him really tough to guard from 10 feet out . He's aggressive so he's gonna score in double figures most nights, and will see his scoring average climb as he becomes more efficient in his shot selection. UNI would benefit by pairing him with a true pg in the future as he's a sg not a point. I think we'll see some really big scoring nights from him over his career, but the question that will have to be answered is will UNI be better going forward in his career with him scoring 22+ a night, or more like 16-18 and being a more balanced attack. jmho
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby MissouriValleyUnite » February 9th, 2019, 10:22 am

BEARZ77 wrote:but the question that will have to be answered is will UNI be better going forward in his career with him scoring 22+ a night, or more like 16-18 and being a more balanced attack. jmho


UNI is 0-6 when AJ Green scores >13.
UNI is 5-0 when AJ Green scores <13.
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby tribecalledquest » February 9th, 2019, 10:53 am

MissouriValleyUnite wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:but the question that will have to be answered is will UNI be better going forward in his career with him scoring 22+ a night, or more like 16-18 and being a more balanced attack. jmho


UNI is 0-6 when AJ Green scores >13.
UNI is 5-0 when AJ Green scores <13.


That's interesting.

He shot UNI back into it vs Bradley the other night then shot them right back out of it. He is totally mislabeled as a PG. He can really score. It's interesting to see the shots Ben lets him get away with. It's a balance for sure. Right now he is horrible defensively but I'm sure that will get better.

He's a nice player but not an elite one.
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby bleach » February 9th, 2019, 2:46 pm

Green would be a better player if on a better team. If he was as good as advertised his team would be better than they are.
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby Sugar Bear » February 10th, 2019, 1:10 pm

Like Da Silva’s chances for NOTY. Shooting 60% on 2’s.
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby BuBrave2006 » February 11th, 2019, 12:48 pm

Townes
Yarbrough
Fayne
McGlynn
Krutwig

That has to be the first team at this point and i feel like it would take a mammoth effort from someone to unseat one of these five. I hate having three centers on there, but they've been that good and there just haven't been that many standout guards this year compared to the bigs.

Why is Jordan Barnes anywhere near anyone's all conference ballots? He has been absolutely horrible during the conference season. He is talented enough to be in that conversation, but I can't just put him up there on name alone. There are too many other guys (Da Silva, Pippen, KJ Riley, Fletcher, Key, Marty Hill, Javon Freeman, Elijah Childs, Darrell Brown, Eric McGill, Aaron Cook, Tremell Murphy) who have been doing more for their teams IMO and I would give any one of these players the nod over Barnes right now (and Custer too for that matter which is crazy to me).
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby MSUDuo » February 11th, 2019, 1:35 pm

BuBrave2006 wrote:Townes
Yarbrough
Fayne
McGlynn
Krutwig

That has to be the first team at this point and i feel like it would take a mammoth effort from someone to unseat one of these five. I hate having three centers on there, but they've been that good and there just haven't been that many standout guards this year compared to the bigs.

Why is Jordan Barnes anywhere near anyone's all conference ballots? He has been absolutely horrible during the conference season. He is talented enough to be in that conversation, but I can't just put him up there on name alone. There are too many other guys (Da Silva, Pippen, KJ Riley, Fletcher, Key, Marty Hill, Javon Freeman, Elijah Childs, Darrell Brown, Eric McGill, Aaron Cook, Tremell Murphy) who have been doing more for their teams IMO and I would give any one of these players the nod over Barnes right now (and Custer too for that matter which is crazy to me).


2 teams taking 4 spots in a wildly even year for the Valley? Interesting.

Someone answer this for me. Are All-Valley selections made based on conference only or season?
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby goramblers2011 » February 25th, 2019, 3:16 pm

Bumping this one.

I think Townes has moved into favorite for POY. Given ISUr's struggles, it'll be tough for them to get both Fayne and Milik on 1st team. And with Drake's success, I think McGlynn has to make it.

Townes
McGlynn
Da Silva
Milik
Krutwig

POY: Townes
NCOY: Da Silva
FOY: Green
DPOY: Pippen
COY: DeVries
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby BCPanther » February 25th, 2019, 3:22 pm

Here's my stab at it....

First Team:
Townes
Krutwig
McGlynn
Da Silva
Green

Second Team:
Yarbrough
D Brown
Fayne
Fletcher
Key

Honorable Mention: Webster, Riley, Pippen, Smits, Ellingson

POY-Townes
NOY-Da Silva
FOY-Green
DPOY-Isaiah Brown
COY-DeVries
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Re: Midseason MVC Awards

Postby bleach » February 25th, 2019, 3:56 pm

The season isn't over yet.
If Loyola loses the last 2 are you gonna give them 2 first teamers and POY?
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