3 point line moving back.

[MissouriValleyUnite]

If someone likes 24 second shot clocks, awesome. They have the NBA and leagues around the world to enjoy them.

What’s unique about college basketball and March Madness is getting to watch a team that plays Iona’s style clash with a team that plays Virginia’s style. The NBA seems homogeneous by comparison.

[tribecalledquest]

If someone likes 24 second shot clocks, awesome. They have the NBA and leagues around the world to enjoy them.

What’s unique about college basketball and March Madness is getting to watch a team that plays Iona’s style clash with a team that plays Virginia’s style. The NBA seems homogeneous by comparison.

The NBA is homogeneous not because of the shot clock but because there are 30 teams compared to 300 in NCAA Division I.

[musiccitybulldog]

I've been around long enough to have enjoyed games when there was no shot clock. It seemed back then unique strategy could win out, still took same level of skill, possibly better coaching. Great defense was equal to more important than today. More emphasis on steals, pressing back then. I tend to feel I personally would like to see it stay at 30. Is it the shot clock that drives the NBA, or the fact that 80 percent of the team members are supposed to be fantastic at creating shots and finishing, the others are super shooters, and that's the "show"?

I've found myself not watching the NBA because of lack of defense and endless run and gun. At times it seems like Jr-High basketball. I would hate to see NCAA basketball go that direction.

[Aces44]

Having 4 Qtrs > 24 sec shot clock.

[tribecalledquest]

I've been around long enough to have enjoyed games when there was no shot clock. It seemed back then unique strategy could win out, still took same level of skill, possibly better coaching. Great defense was equal to more important than today. More emphasis on steals, pressing back then. I tend to feel I personally would like to see it stay at 30. Is it the shot clock that drives the NBA, or the fact that 80 percent of the team members are supposed to be fantastic at creating shots and finishing, the others are super shooters, and that's the "show"?

I've found myself not watching the NBA because of lack of defense and endless run and gun. At times it seems like Jr-High basketball. I would hate to see NCAA basketball go that direction.

You clearly haven't been watching the NBA if you think they don't play defense.

I love the selective memory of the "good old days" where the gritty underdog won all of these games because of some genius scheming coach.

[glm38]

I've been around long enough to have enjoyed games when there was no shot clock. It seemed back then unique strategy could win out, still took same level of skill, possibly better coaching. Great defense was equal to more important than today. More emphasis on steals, pressing back then. I tend to feel I personally would like to see it stay at 30. Is it the shot clock that drives the NBA, or the fact that 80 percent of the team members are supposed to be fantastic at creating shots and finishing, the others are super shooters, and that's the "show"?

I've found myself not watching the NBA because of lack of defense and endless run and gun. At times it seems like Jr-High basketball. I would hate to see NCAA basketball go that direction.

You clearly haven't been watching the NBA if you think they don't play defense.

I love the selective memory of the "good old days" where the gritty underdog won all of these games because of some genius scheming coach.

I agree. It's a ridiculous fallacy that they don't play defense in the NBA. Sometimes it appears that way because so many of the players are so good offensively compared to college. But all the best teams concentrate on and play good defense.

[Blers]

Total aside but somewhat related; with the rule changes courts will be changing slightly. LU just overhauled their court design (script logo/chicago flag in the wood, can be seen here: https://twitter.com/LoyolaRamblers/stat ... 8545783810), and I remember reading that SIU planned to change theirs in August.

Any other major changes expected to come?

[BuBrave2006]

I've been around long enough to have enjoyed games when there was no shot clock. It seemed back then unique strategy could win out, still took same level of skill, possibly better coaching. Great defense was equal to more important than today. More emphasis on steals, pressing back then. I tend to feel I personally would like to see it stay at 30. Is it the shot clock that drives the NBA, or the fact that 80 percent of the team members are supposed to be fantastic at creating shots and finishing, the others are super shooters, and that's the "show"?

I've found myself not watching the NBA because of lack of defense and endless run and gun. At times it seems like Jr-High basketball. I would hate to see NCAA basketball go that direction.

You clearly haven't been watching the NBA if you think they don't play defense.

I love the selective memory of the "good old days" where the gritty underdog won all of these games because of some genius scheming coach.

I agree. It's a ridiculous fallacy that they don't play defense in the NBA. Sometimes it appears that way because so many of the players are so good offensively compared to college. But all the best teams concentrate on and play good defense.

They concentrate on and play good defense when they want to play good defense. The effort isn't always there. During the regular season, many teams just run on "autopilot" just to get to the playoffs. The playoffs, however, are a completely different story. This was one of the most entertaining NBA playoffs I've seen in years.

[tribecalledquest]

They concentrate on and play good defense when they want to play good defense. The effort isn't always there. During the regular season, many teams just run on "autopilot" just to get to the playoffs. The playoffs, however, are a completely different story. This was one of the most entertaining NBA playoffs I've seen in years.

They play the best defense of any basketball in the world because it is the best basketball in the world. Its the best all the time.

In what other sport do fans think the lower levels do things better than the top professionals? Its so weird.

[BuBrave2006]

They concentrate on and play good defense when they want to play good defense. The effort isn't always there. During the regular season, many teams just run on "autopilot" just to get to the playoffs. The playoffs, however, are a completely different story. This was one of the most entertaining NBA playoffs I've seen in years.

They play the best defense of any basketball in the world because it is the best basketball in the world. Its the best all the time.

In what other sport do fans think the lower levels do things better than the top professionals? Its so weird.

I'm not sure that you disproved anything that I said. All I did was question everyday effort. You see young baseball players constantly sprinting out ground balls, but how many professional baseball players don't run out ground balls? Coaches hold younger kids to a higher standard. Younger kids are more willing to make sacrifices for the good of the team. The older players get, once they become professionals and start getting big contracts, they start making "business decisions" while they are playing to potentially avoid getting hurt. Is every player like that? Of course not. But to deny that it happens and that it doesn't affect effort in what some people consider "meaningless" regular season games is ignorant. Obviously this isn't true with every team, but the top of the line teams...the warriors, the rockets, the LeBron-led Cavaliers all were like that. When the playoffs come around and teams start caring then yes, I 100% agree with you that the defense is top notch and definitely takes a step up. But that only happens when teams "want" to play defense.