Evansville fires Walter McCarty

[municup14]

I believe the Lickliter hire is false news.
Well I guess someone made a liar out of me.
That was fast

[VUGrad1314]

I believe the Lickliter hire is false news.

How do you figure? It's been reported by multiple sources throughout the country and it looks like no less than the UE Athletics Twitter has footage of him addressing the team about how happy he is to become their leader. That's a pretty elaborate hoax.

[patnb]

Obligatory victory lap post

It's hard to say because it's a different game now than it was 12 15 20 years ago and his tenure at Iowa was nothing short of a disaster and his time at Marian was okay but not exactly inspiring but I would take a guy with his resume (2 Sweet 16s and a National Coach of the Year) in a heartbeat if I'm trying to revive a program especially if my other option is a guy who was 23 games under .500 with a Sun Belt team. He took Butler out of the doldrums if the administration and city of Evansville are behind making the Purple Aces a winner I think he would be one of their best available chances at making it happen.

He didn't take Butler from the doldrums. Are you nuts? They had been to 4 NCAA tournaments in 5 years leading into him getting the job. He was given a very strong roster full of sophomores juniors and seniors. Once he had "his team" he fell way back. He fixed it by loading up on transfers, had the run to the S16, took a paycheck at Iowa because he knew he hadn't dont a great job recruiting behind those transfers and then floored the bus to complete s*** at Iowa. The Marian team he took over was in the NAIA Sweet 16 the year before he got there, and he finished 7th in the conference his first year and under .500 his second year. After he left they had 1 year of rebuilding and become an elite 8/final 4 program at the NAIA level again.

Could Evansville have done worse? Yes. Absolutely.
Could they have done better by understanding this season is lost and trying to find someone when there are actually coaches on the move? Absolutely. He's 64 years old. His contract is rumored at 2.5 years. Tough to recruit when it's pretty clear you won't be around passed your first classes sophomore season. I can't imagine too many quality recruits signing up for the idea of switching coaches halfway through their careers. Lame duck coaches are never good.

I don't want to hear about "BrAdLeY sTaRtEd 0-5". Look up the history of the MVC and how often teams start disastrously and recover. Next I want you to look at Bradley's roster and then Evansville's and be honest about just how vastly different they are.

[ahunte1]

Were they ever? I look at it this way: Lickliter wanted back into coaching, McCarty needed someone with experience on his staff to show him the ropes It was a marriage of convenience. Now Lickliter has what he wants since he had to know firsthand what a loose cannon McCarty was.

Im sure Todd Lickliter played NO part in collecting information about McCarty's actions. None whatsoever.

Even by message board standards, that's a pretty wild accusation.

[VUGrad1314]

Obligatory victory lap post

It's hard to say because it's a different game now than it was 12 15 20 years ago and his tenure at Iowa was nothing short of a disaster and his time at Marian was okay but not exactly inspiring but I would take a guy with his resume (2 Sweet 16s and a National Coach of the Year) in a heartbeat if I'm trying to revive a program especially if my other option is a guy who was 23 games under .500 with a Sun Belt team. He took Butler out of the doldrums if the administration and city of Evansville are behind making the Purple Aces a winner I think he would be one of their best available chances at making it happen.

He didn't take Butler from the doldrums. Are you nuts? They had been to 4 NCAA tournaments in 5 years leading into him getting the job. He was given a very strong roster full of sophomores juniors and seniors. Once he had "his team" he fell way back. He fixed it by loading up on transfers, had the run to the S16, took a paycheck at Iowa because he knew he hadn't dont a great job recruiting behind those transfers and then floored the bus to complete s*** at Iowa. The Marian team he took over was in the NAIA Sweet 16 the year before he got there, and he finished 7th in the conference his first year and under .500 his second year. After he left they had 1 year of rebuilding and become an elite 8/final 4 program at the NAIA level again.

Could Evansville have done worse? Yes. Absolutely.
Could they have done better by understanding this season is lost and trying to find someone when there are actually coaches on the move? Absolutely. He's 64 years old. His contract is rumored at 2.5 years. Tough to recruit when it's pretty clear you won't be around passed your first classes sophomore season. I can't imagine too many quality recruits signing up for the idea of switching coaches halfway through their careers. Lame duck coaches are never good.

I don't want to hear about "BrAdLeY sTaRtEd 0-5". Look up the history of the MVC and how often teams start disastrously and recover. Next I want you to look at Bradley's roster and then Evansville's and be honest about just how vastly different they are.

If you think they don't have (or won't find this offseason) some kind of a succession plan for Lickliter you are totally mistaken. No school would be short-sighted enough to give a short term deal with no succession plan. A name to watch IMO: David Ragland (assistant at Utah State formerly of Valpo and ISUb). He interviewed for the Evansville job when McCarty got it. Would not be shocked to see him learn for two years under Lickliter before being handed the reins.

[tribecalledquest]

Were they ever? I look at it this way: Lickliter wanted back into coaching, McCarty needed someone with experience on his staff to show him the ropes It was a marriage of convenience. Now Lickliter has what he wants since he had to know firsthand what a loose cannon McCarty was.

Im sure Todd Lickliter played NO part in collecting information about McCarty's actions. None whatsoever.

Even by message board standards, that's a pretty wild accusation.

Right. So Lickliter was on staff last year. He and Graves leave the staff. McCarty had some "issues" last year - which Lickliter certainly knew about (plus stuff others DIDNT know about). McCarthy is gone, gets fired and on the same day Lickliter is hired? Two totally separate transactions I'm sure.

[third rail]

UE did the right thing here. Better now than farther along the rebuild road.

Mo State did the wrong thing inviting this type of behavior in to the MVFC.

[MoneyPower]

Lickliter was one of the worst offensive coaches I have ever seen during his tenure at Iowa.

[patnb]

Lickliter was one of the worst offensive coaches I have ever seen during his tenure at Iowa.

At least when McDermott and Jake were playing in the 50s at UNI they would win.

Lickliter hasn't proven he can play at that speed and win, but that's where he wants to be.

[IWokeUpLikeThis]

Student hires national law firm
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