Coaching Churn

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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Birdfan2018 » March 9th, 2021, 1:47 pm

DUBulldog wrote:
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BEARZ77 wrote:And to me, again the bigger issue is your young players and recruits who were anticipating a certain opportunity or playing time and now are seeing a veteran player still in their path. Some may be fine with that, others may look for a more immediate path to pt. It will be a summer of much upheaval across college basketball.


Agreed 100%.

One example - when Penn and Hemphill went down Yesefu's game went to another level. Now they are both back and Devries is coming. So he's going to go back to getting less shots and less minutes? Again - not picking on him - just using that as an example.


Definitely would get less minutes. I seriously don't think he sat down in any of the 6-7 games he started....played 40 minutes each game. He was getting 20-25 minutes per game before Hemphill and Penn went down. He'll probably still be a 20-30 minute per game guy next season.


But, I agree with what you're saying. There are several freshmen on Drake's team who barely played. With everybody (theoretically) returning next season, they have to know that they will barely play next season either. Bulldogs had 16 guys suited up this season, including walk-ons. They could potentially have 18-19 next season if everybody comes back and they use their final scholarship.

Do the returning players count toward the 13 total scholarships?
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Postby Drakey » March 9th, 2021, 1:57 pm

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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby AcesAces » March 9th, 2021, 2:01 pm

Seniors returning for a second senior year is absolutely dumb. You fans wanting them to return for your team are naïve and selfish.

Time for them to move on with their lives, which matters much more than playing college basketball. Time for the younger players to have their chance.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Birdfan2018 » March 9th, 2021, 3:12 pm

AcesAces wrote:Seniors returning for a second senior year is absolutely dumb. You fans wanting them to return for your team are naïve and selfish.

Time for them to move on with their lives, which matters much more than playing college basketball. Time for the younger players to have their chance.

This may be one of the dumbest quick decisions the NCAA has ever made. Some teams may have 15-16 scholarship players, while other teams will only have 13 scholarship players. And this can go on for three more seasons. I can understand if a player opted out this season due to COVID-19 concerns not losing a year of eligibility, but a player who now has played four full season getting a fifth year makes zero sense.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby squirrel » March 9th, 2021, 3:56 pm

Birdfan2018 wrote:Do the returning players count toward the 13 total scholarships?


No. But, if a player changes schools, they do count against the new school's 13.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby BCPanther » March 9th, 2021, 4:39 pm

Pickford and Mar are coming back for sure at UNI, per Jake.

Trae Berhow is going to do some evaluation with some European scouts and then make a decision.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Drakey » March 9th, 2021, 4:48 pm

Birdfan2018 wrote:
AcesAces wrote:Seniors returning for a second senior year is absolutely dumb. You fans wanting them to return for your team are naïve and selfish.

Time for them to move on with their lives, which matters much more than playing college basketball. Time for the younger players to have their chance.

This may be one of the dumbest quick decisions the NCAA has ever made. Some teams may have 15-16 scholarship players, while other teams will only have 13 scholarship players. And this can go on for three more seasons. I can understand if a player opted out this season due to COVID-19 concerns not losing a year of eligibility, but a player who now has played four full season getting a fifth year makes zero sense.


I think it only goes for one year. Next year they can have more than 13. the next year, 13.
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby Lusuperfan1 » March 9th, 2021, 7:36 pm

Birdfan2018 wrote:
AcesAces wrote:Seniors returning for a second senior year is absolutely dumb. You fans wanting them to return for your team are naïve and selfish.

Time for them to move on with their lives, which matters much more than playing college basketball. Time for the younger players to have their chance.

This may be one of the dumbest quick decisions the NCAA has ever made. Some teams may have 15-16 scholarship players, while other teams will only have 13 scholarship players. And this can go on for three more seasons. I can understand if a player opted out this season due to COVID-19 concerns not losing a year of eligibility, but a player who now has played four full season getting a fifth year makes zero sense.

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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby tribecalledquest » March 9th, 2021, 11:07 pm

AcesAces wrote:Seniors returning for a second senior year is absolutely dumb. You fans wanting them to return for your team are naïve and selfish.

Time for them to move on with their lives, which matters much more than playing college basketball. Time for the younger players to have their chance.


Do you feel the same now that Kuhlman and Frederking are coming back to UE?
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Re: Coaching Churn

Postby AcesAces » March 10th, 2021, 3:07 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
AcesAces wrote:Seniors returning for a second senior year is absolutely dumb. You fans wanting them to return for your team are naïve and selfish.

Time for them to move on with their lives, which matters much more than playing college basketball. Time for the younger players to have their chance.


Do you feel the same now that Kuhlman and Frederking are coming back to UE?


Where has it been reported that they are coming back? Maybe that is why Curtis has decided to transfer. He should not sit while either of them is on the court. It pains me to say it but we are trying to play in the MVC of D1 not D2. Both are very limited roll players left over from the Simmons era. Neither is MVC caliber starting player yet they both started every game this year and played way too many minutes last year.

But, even if we were talking about Balentine and Egidijus Mockevičius, two recent players, who will be UE hall of famers, I would say the same. It is time for new players to step up and get their shot.
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