BEARZ77 wrote:The problem I see for both Drake and Indiana St is lack of Q1 games, let alone Q1 wins. Drake hasn't played 1 yet, and probably plays 3-4 at most the rest of the way. Indiana St has played 1 [Alabama /lost] and also plays maybe 3-4 at most .Their game at Michigan St is huge for them. For example, the team that beat Indiana St, Alabama, is probably fairly indicative of other SEC teams and they have already played 4 Q-1 games and have about 14 more on their schedule. Both Indiana St and Drake have to go probably no worse than 17-3 in the Valley to have a real shot .
Bulldog4life24 wrote:The thing is, the Valley being this high isnt going to matter for NCAA, because of NET and quad wins, as previous posters alluded to. It might help for other tourneys, but they’ll just turn to quad resume wins and leave the composite conference net ranking behind when placing Iowa in over Drake, ISUb, etc. Iowa can go 1-10 and will still get in against our resume of 2-3 or 1-4
Kyle_Saluki_17 wrote:Bulldog4life24 wrote:The thing is, the Valley being this high isnt going to matter for NCAA, because of NET and quad wins, as previous posters alluded to. It might help for other tourneys, but they’ll just turn to quad resume wins and leave the composite conference net ranking behind when placing Iowa in over Drake, ISUb, etc. Iowa can go 1-10 and will still get in against our resume of 2-3 or 1-4
The thing is, in recent years, when we’ve deserved an at large, we’ve gotten it (See Loyola and Drake). We haven’t really deserved any outside of that. I get the whining about the system in general, but I’m not sure I can provide an example of anyone here getting screwed in the last few years. Maybe the Illinois State team years back? That’s been a while now though.
Kyle_Saluki_17 wrote:Bulldog4life24 wrote:The thing is, the Valley being this high isnt going to matter for NCAA, because of NET and quad wins, as previous posters alluded to. It might help for other tourneys, but they’ll just turn to quad resume wins and leave the composite conference net ranking behind when placing Iowa in over Drake, ISUb, etc. Iowa can go 1-10 and will still get in against our resume of 2-3 or 1-4
The thing is, in recent years, when we’ve deserved an at large, we’ve gotten it (See Loyola and Drake). We haven’t really deserved any outside of that. I get the whining about the system in general, but I’m not sure I can provide an example of anyone here getting screwed in the last few years. Maybe the Illinois State team years back? That’s been a while now though.
bradley_townie wrote:Kyle_Saluki_17 wrote:Bulldog4life24 wrote:The thing is, the Valley being this high isnt going to matter for NCAA, because of NET and quad wins, as previous posters alluded to. It might help for other tourneys, but they’ll just turn to quad resume wins and leave the composite conference net ranking behind when placing Iowa in over Drake, ISUb, etc. Iowa can go 1-10 and will still get in against our resume of 2-3 or 1-4
The thing is, in recent years, when we’ve deserved an at large, we’ve gotten it (See Loyola and Drake). We haven’t really deserved any outside of that. I get the whining about the system in general, but I’m not sure I can provide an example of anyone here getting screwed in the last few years. Maybe the Illinois State team years back? That’s been a while now though.
A good barometer for success is whether our conference champion can secure an at-large bid if they fail to win Arch Madness. If that isn't happening, it's a conference-wide failure.
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