MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby bradley_townie » February 27th, 2025, 8:41 am

tribecalledquest wrote:Duke Deen is certainly a flawed player. He may not even make First Team All League. But damn does that dude go on some unreal stretches of shot making. 5-6 times a year he just goes off over like a three minute stretch and it totally changes a game. He has been a joy to watch. Great representative of the league as well.


Duke getting left off 1st team wouldn't be so bad because he'd go nuclear in St. Louis from the giant chip on his shoulder.

Actually, I'm totally ok if no one from Bradley makes 1st team. Bradley is a team that thrives playing the underdog role and Wardle seems to get a lot out of his players in those situations.
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Postby Majik45 » February 27th, 2025, 11:52 am

I've been telling people all week, we need a Duke Deen heater at Arch Madness. It's honestly ridiculous to see in person.

In last nights in the 2nd half, from the 16:30 to the 12:02 mark, Bradley had 8 possessions where Bradley scored 22 points on 7 of 8 shooting (6 for 6 from 3) which included Duke Deen going 5 for 5 from deep. The last one he was a step in front of the Valpo logo at half court.

There was a 3 point play from Jaquan Johnson, and Darius Hannah split a pair of free throws to get you to the 22 points, and Bradley scored on all 8 possessions as the one missed shot was blocked out of bounds.

When Duke gets going, the whole team can score a lot in a hurry. This is one of the strangest Bradley teams to watch as they can be so good and so frustrating multiple times in the same game.
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby FunchessonPopcorn » February 27th, 2025, 12:17 pm

Majik45 wrote:I've been telling people all week, we need a Duke Deen heater at Arch Madness. It's honestly ridiculous to see in person.

In last nights in the 2nd half, from the 16:30 to the 12:02 mark, Bradley had 8 possessions where Bradley scored 22 points on 7 of 8 shooting (6 for 6 from 3) which included Duke Deen going 5 for 5 from deep. The last one he was a step in front of the Valpo logo at half court.

There was a 3 point play from Jaquan Johnson, and Darius Hannah split a pair of free throws to get you to the 22 points, and Bradley scored on all 8 possessions as the one missed shot was blocked out of bounds.

When Duke gets going, the whole team can score a lot in a hurry. This is one of the strangest Bradley teams to watch as they can be so good and so frustrating multiple times in the same game.


A good shooting team, but shooting is volatile, and there are limited counters Bradley has for situations when a team has length, when they can get out and challenge, switch a lot, and when they are getting the right kind of ref style to allow physicality.

Then, Bradley also has a turnover bug that can manifest itself, and can sometimes become self induced and not dependent of any defensive pressure. I think that’s why so many of these games have been pulling rabbits out of hats, and just crazy swings. You can tell me Bradley gets bounced on Friday by anyone and I can buy it. Also think their best game holds up well with anyone, but they don’t get to it as consistently as several others.

As for Duke Deen, he’s as fun a player to follow as we’ve had. I’m thinking how he went white hot in Terre Haute last season and put Bradley in a spot they could have won there, along with these last few games. He also has had some down spells this season that were pretty rough. I’d personally think Bradley’s spot in standings warrant him rounding out a 1st team spot, but if he goes 2nd team and it helps a chip on the shoulder like it did for Darrell Brown in STL, that’s fine with me too.
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby Birdfan2018 » February 27th, 2025, 12:58 pm

bradley_townie wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:Duke Deen is certainly a flawed player. He may not even make First Team All League. But damn does that dude go on some unreal stretches of shot making. 5-6 times a year he just goes off over like a three minute stretch and it totally changes a game. He has been a joy to watch. Great representative of the league as well.


Duke getting left off 1st team wouldn't be so bad because he'd go nuclear in St. Louis from the giant chip on his shoulder.

Actually, I'm totally ok if no one from Bradley makes 1st team. Bradley is a team that thrives playing the underdog role and Wardle seems to get a lot out of his players in those situations.

So Duke Deen won’t play as well in the tournament if he makes first team then if he doesn’t?
If Duke Deen does make first team, does Samage Teel, Tayshawn Comer, Kennard Davis Jr, Chase Walker, Cooper Schwieger, Johnny Kinziger, do they have a chip on their shoulder and go off in St Louis because they got left off first team?
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby tribecalledquest » February 27th, 2025, 1:30 pm

Birdfan2018 wrote:
bradley_townie wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:Duke Deen is certainly a flawed player. He may not even make First Team All League. But damn does that dude go on some unreal stretches of shot making. 5-6 times a year he just goes off over like a three minute stretch and it totally changes a game. He has been a joy to watch. Great representative of the league as well.


Duke getting left off 1st team wouldn't be so bad because he'd go nuclear in St. Louis from the giant chip on his shoulder.

Actually, I'm totally ok if no one from Bradley makes 1st team. Bradley is a team that thrives playing the underdog role and Wardle seems to get a lot out of his players in those situations.

So Duke Deen won’t play as well in the tournament if he makes first team then if he doesn’t?


Ha!

I will say this: no one, I mean no one, can play the "disrespect" or "no one believes in us" card more than a Brian Wardle-coached team. It is the caffeine that sustains them and why there was a struggle all season with being the favorite.
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby bradley_townie » February 27th, 2025, 1:53 pm

Birdfan2018 wrote:
bradley_townie wrote:
tribecalledquest wrote:Duke Deen is certainly a flawed player. He may not even make First Team All League. But damn does that dude go on some unreal stretches of shot making. 5-6 times a year he just goes off over like a three minute stretch and it totally changes a game. He has been a joy to watch. Great representative of the league as well.


Duke getting left off 1st team wouldn't be so bad because he'd go nuclear in St. Louis from the giant chip on his shoulder.

Actually, I'm totally ok if no one from Bradley makes 1st team. Bradley is a team that thrives playing the underdog role and Wardle seems to get a lot out of his players in those situations.

So Duke Deen won’t play as well in the tournament if he makes first team then if he doesn’t?
If Duke Deen does make first team, does Samage Teel, Tayshawn Comer, Kennard Davis Jr, Chase Walker, Cooper Schwieger, Johnny Kinziger, do they have a chip on their shoulder and go off in St Louis because they got left off first team?


Yes and probably, depending on the person. These are competitive athletes. I absolutely believe guys look at those lists and use that as a motivator, even if they don't admit it out loud.
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby AcesAces » February 27th, 2025, 4:35 pm

Get Comer on First Team MVC. He had Stirtz flustered. Took away his strengths. Was in his grill all night long.
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby Birdfan2018 » February 27th, 2025, 6:08 pm

AcesAces wrote:Get Comer on First Team MVC. He had Stirtz flustered. Took away his strengths. Was in his grill all night long.

I have him listed on mine (All-MVC Prediction thread).
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby AcesAces » February 28th, 2025, 7:23 am

Birdfan2018 wrote:
AcesAces wrote:Get Comer on First Team MVC. He had Stirtz flustered. Took away his strengths. Was in his grill all night long.

I have him listed on mine (All-MVC Prediction thread).


Smart man.
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Re: MVC Games Week 17 2024-25

Postby ValpoDad » March 2nd, 2025, 9:29 am

OK immediately file this under 'No one cares" but If VU could get to friday would they have a better shot at Bradley or UNI? I know the overwhelming response will be NEITHER but throw me a bone so I have a rooting interest in the Bradley UNI game today. And all y'all would love Valpo to get freaky and knock UIC out thursday. So cmon throw a couple remarks out there.
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