We could call it "MVC: Going Postal: for the arena's closeness to the post office.


Just trying to come up with ways to get ISU and UE fans to show up.
Heinro wrote:The Savis Center is a dumb. I will completely agree. After being in the Sprint and even Intrust Bank, which should be out of the question, the Scottrade Center is a dump; you cant argue otherwise. Has it been a good place for the Valley recently, yes, but at the very least they should alternate sites. Anyone who has been to KC and the Sprint Center couldn't agree otherwise.
Not only from the aspect of the arena itself. The fact that more tickets will be sold alone should be a strong consideration in moving it, even if it is mainly WSU and CU fans. Simple fact is StL is farther away from Omaha and Wichita then anywhere else in the league and we still consistently have more fans. I wasn't in StL today, but how well did ISU fans travel out for the game today? If WSU or CU were in the championship there would be a mass exodus from Omaha or Wichita to watch them play. If it were in Sprint, the place would be sold out.
As for the area around the arena, I find it to be much more appealing. There are far more eating options and entertainment is easily as good.
Much like Doug Elgin, most of you have become satisfied with the status quo and are unwilling to make changes. Even though a move would be better for the league and would likely make for a better Valley tourney experience for all fans expect perhaps SIU.
Heinro wrote:The Savis Center is a dumb. I will completely agree. After being in the Sprint and even Intrust Bank, which should be out of the question, the Scottrade Center is a dump; you cant argue otherwise. Has it been a good place for the Valley recently, yes, but at the very least they should alternate sites. Anyone who has been to KC and the Sprint Center couldn't agree otherwise.
Not only from the aspect of the arena itself. The fact that more tickets will be sold alone should be a strong consideration in moving it, even if it is mainly WSU and CU fans. Simple fact is StL is farther away from Omaha and Wichita then anywhere else in the league and we still consistently have more fans. I wasn't in StL today, but how well did ISU fans travel out for the game today? If WSU or CU were in the championship there would be a mass exodus from Omaha or Wichita to watch them play. If it were in Sprint, the place would be sold out.
As for the area around the arena, I find it to be much more appealing. There are far more eating options and entertainment is easily as good.
Much like Doug Elgin, most of you have become satisfied with the status quo and are unwilling to make changes. Even though a move would be better for the league and would likely make for a better Valley tourney experience for all fans expect perhaps SIU.
St. Sebastian wrote:I have no doubt that Creighton and WSU fans would show up in K.C. ... for a year or two.
But what happens when they run into the same phenomenon as the eastern MVC schools? The idea that, "I'm not going to blow X-amount of dollars on an all-session ticket, when I can just hop in my car and come down Saturday or Sunday?"
It'll happen. And it'll happen without the numbers from the other fanbases -- notably SIU, Bradley, Illinois State -- to bolster attendance.
Or, what happens when CU and WSU have a down year? Those fans don't show up, plus, the fans from the other schools don't show in as great a number?
The tournament is fine where it is.
St. Sebastian wrote:I have no doubt that Creighton and WSU fans would show up in K.C. ... for a year or two.
But what happens when they run into the same phenomenon as the eastern MVC schools? The idea that, "I'm not going to blow X-amount of dollars on an all-session ticket, when I can just hop in my car and come down Saturday or Sunday?"
It'll happen. And it'll happen without the numbers from the other fanbases -- notably SIU, Bradley, Illinois State -- to bolster attendance.
Or, what happens when CU and WSU have a down year? Those fans don't show up, plus, the fans from the other schools don't show in as great a number?
The tournament is fine where it is.
AndShock wrote:St. Sebastian wrote:I have no doubt that Creighton and WSU fans would show up in K.C. ... for a year or two.
But what happens when they run into the same phenomenon as the eastern MVC schools? The idea that, "I'm not going to blow X-amount of dollars on an all-session ticket, when I can just hop in my car and come down Saturday or Sunday?"
It'll happen. And it'll happen without the numbers from the other fanbases -- notably SIU, Bradley, Illinois State -- to bolster attendance.
Or, what happens when CU and WSU have a down year? Those fans don't show up, plus, the fans from the other schools don't show in as great a number?
The tournament is fine where it is.
WSU fans DO show up during a down year. I haven't witnessed a Creighton down year, so I wouldn't know. I'd imagine they aren't going to reach Evansville or ISU Blue attendance levels either. Also, considering Bradley and ISU Red have had decent attendance in the all-session sections in St. Louis, even with the close proximity, I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about.
Jet915 wrote:AndShock wrote:St. Sebastian wrote:I have no doubt that Creighton and WSU fans would show up in K.C. ... for a year or two.
But what happens when they run into the same phenomenon as the eastern MVC schools? The idea that, "I'm not going to blow X-amount of dollars on an all-session ticket, when I can just hop in my car and come down Saturday or Sunday?"
It'll happen. And it'll happen without the numbers from the other fanbases -- notably SIU, Bradley, Illinois State -- to bolster attendance.
Or, what happens when CU and WSU have a down year? Those fans don't show up, plus, the fans from the other schools don't show in as great a number?
The tournament is fine where it is.
WSU fans DO show up during a down year. I haven't witnessed a Creighton down year, so I wouldn't know. I'd imagine they aren't going to reach Evansville or ISU Blue attendance levels either. Also, considering Bradley and ISU Red have had decent attendance in the all-session sections in St. Louis, even with the close proximity, I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about.
This year and last were "down" years for CU and CU had the second most fans at Arch Madness behind WSU.
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