How long before the AAC implodes?

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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby third rail » June 23rd, 2019, 10:56 am

Stickboy46 wrote:Eh. It may still implode. Losing UConn isn't an implosion. Very easily can be replaced and still have a really good TV contract that isn't affected by this. In about 5 years is when it's most likely


No, it's not an implosion but it starts the rush to the door because no one wants to be left holding the bag of crap.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Stickboy46 » June 23rd, 2019, 1:16 pm

third rail wrote:
Stickboy46 wrote:Eh. It may still implode. Losing UConn isn't an implosion. Very easily can be replaced and still have a really good TV contract that isn't affected by this. In about 5 years is when it's most likely


No, it's not an implosion but it starts the rush to the door because no one wants to be left holding the bag of crap.

Does it? UConn is taking a pay cut to do this because they don't care about football. The only way any of the others are leaving is with a P5 invite. Which doesn't appear to be coming anytime soon. At least not until the big conferences tv contracts come up
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby uniguy » June 23rd, 2019, 4:31 pm

Will be interesting to see where the AAC goes from here. Do they add a full new member like a CUSA or MAC school (or even a Boise State)? Do they add a football only member like Army? And if they do that, do they add a second non-football member like WSU is.....which I would think VCU or Dayton would be the most likely.

If they go with the latter, that could mean the A-10 would be looking to add, and I would think Bradley would be on the list of teams they would call.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby sixth ace » June 23rd, 2019, 5:23 pm

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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby mvfcfan » June 23rd, 2019, 7:41 pm

My guess is that the AAC adds someone from CUSA.

VCU could be an option, but I'm not sure they'd actually be interested. The Atlantic 10 is a well respected mid major conference that is multi-bid league most years and their schools typically get east-coast bias come selection Sunday. VCU also wouldn't get a full portion of the AAC TV money since they don't have football. Also adding Army for football might be more complicated than what it's worth with the Army-Navy game always being the last game of the year.

My guess is that no one from the Mountain West would be interested in the American Athletic. There's a reason Boise State didn't go when they had the chance.

If it was up to me I would probably add Southern Miss. Even though they've been down a little bit lately they've had some really good football teams and their basketball every once in a while has had some success. I'm sure this isn't who Wichita fans want, but the AAC is a football first conference and Southern Miss benefits them the most for football. They also share rivalries with Tulane, Memphis, and East Carolina who are already in the AAC.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Mikovio » June 24th, 2019, 7:51 am

uniguy wrote:Will be interesting to see where the AAC goes from here. Do they add a full new member like a CUSA or MAC school (or even a Boise State)? Do they add a football only member like Army? And if they do that, do they add a second non-football member like WSU is.....which I would think VCU or Dayton would be the most likely.

If they go with the latter, that could mean the A-10 would be looking to add, and I would think Bradley would be on the list of teams they would call.

Bradley and Loyola would be the top A10 prospects but travel costs would be prohibitive. I don't know if the A10 revenue would justify that. Plus you've got the regional rivalries which are worth more to Bradley than Loyola.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby uniguy » June 24th, 2019, 10:45 am

If I am the AAC commish I am calling BYU first, and probably getting a hard no.

Then I am calling Army. You could put Army and Navy in opposite divisions and ensure they never play a league game, allowing Army-Navy to be a nonconference game after the season. That would only be problematic in the event both win their divisions. If you get Army, you add another non-football school like VCU or Dayton.

If that fails, I am probably calling Old Dominion. Their football is not there yet, but they are building facilities and have money. They also have arguably the best basketball tradition of any realistic FBS school available. Marshall, North Texas and La Tech are also on my radar.

Another outside the bun idea would be Air Force. They are out of their element in the MWC in most sports. Add Air Force for FB and they can park the rest of their programs in the Big West or WCC and be more competitive.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Stickboy46 » June 24th, 2019, 12:29 pm

uniguy wrote:If I am the AAC commish I am calling BYU first, and probably getting a hard no.

Then I am calling Army. You could put Army and Navy in opposite divisions and ensure they never play a league game, allowing Army-Navy to be a nonconference game after the season. That would only be problematic in the event both win their divisions. If you get Army, you add another non-football school like VCU or Dayton.

If that fails, I am probably calling Old Dominion. Their football is not there yet, but they are building facilities and have money. They also have arguably the best basketball tradition of any realistic FBS school available. Marshall, North Texas and La Tech are also on my radar.

Another outside the bun idea would be Air Force. They are out of their element in the MWC in most sports. Add Air Force for FB and they can park the rest of their programs in the Big West or WCC and be more competitive.

These are the options I've seen tossed around a lot. UConn added little to no value on the football side which is the primary driver for the large TV contract they just got. All of these options (expect a FB only and VCU/Dayton) will result in at minimum a perception of a drop on the basketball side but would be a big increase on the football side. So the AAC likely ends up stronger as a whole because of this. UConn hasn't done much the last 5 years in basketball either so an add of VCU or Dayton could make the basketball side nearly as strong too.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Red » June 24th, 2019, 1:08 pm

Stickboy46 wrote:
uniguy wrote:If I am the AAC commish I am calling BYU first, and probably getting a hard no.

Then I am calling Army. You could put Army and Navy in opposite divisions and ensure they never play a league game, allowing Army-Navy to be a nonconference game after the season. That would only be problematic in the event both win their divisions. If you get Army, you add another non-football school like VCU or Dayton.

If that fails, I am probably calling Old Dominion. Their football is not there yet, but they are building facilities and have money. They also have arguably the best basketball tradition of any realistic FBS school available. Marshall, North Texas and La Tech are also on my radar.

Another outside the bun idea would be Air Force. They are out of their element in the MWC in most sports. Add Air Force for FB and they can park the rest of their programs in the Big West or WCC and be more competitive.

These are the options I've seen tossed around a lot. UConn added little to no value on the football side which is the primary driver for the large TV contract they just got. All of these options (expect a FB only and VCU/Dayton) will result in at minimum a perception of a drop on the basketball side but would be a big increase on the football side. So the AAC likely ends up stronger as a whole because of this. UConn hasn't done much the last 5 years in basketball either so an add of VCU or Dayton could make the basketball side nearly as strong too.


Wow keep telling yourself this. Think about the optics: a school is making football money, albeit AAC football money, and now departing your league to join a far superior basketball only league. That school has won like 4 of the past 20 national titles and their women's team actually draws eyes to watch the sport.

I'm no UConn or Big East fan, but the spin from WSU fans is just hilarious. UConn wanted to get out of the AAC so badly they're essentially giving up on their football team. That says a lot.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Stickboy46 » June 24th, 2019, 1:45 pm

Red wrote:
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uniguy wrote:If I am the AAC commish I am calling BYU first, and probably getting a hard no.

Then I am calling Army. You could put Army and Navy in opposite divisions and ensure they never play a league game, allowing Army-Navy to be a nonconference game after the season. That would only be problematic in the event both win their divisions. If you get Army, you add another non-football school like VCU or Dayton.

If that fails, I am probably calling Old Dominion. Their football is not there yet, but they are building facilities and have money. They also have arguably the best basketball tradition of any realistic FBS school available. Marshall, North Texas and La Tech are also on my radar.

Another outside the bun idea would be Air Force. They are out of their element in the MWC in most sports. Add Air Force for FB and they can park the rest of their programs in the Big West or WCC and be more competitive.

These are the options I've seen tossed around a lot. UConn added little to no value on the football side which is the primary driver for the large TV contract they just got. All of these options (expect a FB only and VCU/Dayton) will result in at minimum a perception of a drop on the basketball side but would be a big increase on the football side. So the AAC likely ends up stronger as a whole because of this. UConn hasn't done much the last 5 years in basketball either so an add of VCU or Dayton could make the basketball side nearly as strong too.


Wow keep telling yourself this. Think about the optics: a school is making football money, albeit AAC football money, and now departing your league to join a far superior basketball only league. That school has won like 4 of the past 20 national titles and their women's team actually draws eyes to watch the sport.

I'm no UConn or Big East fan, but the spin from WSU fans is just hilarious. UConn wanted to get out of the AAC so badly they're essentially giving up on their football team. That says a lot.


I mean .. you can disagree, but just makes you wrong.

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That's a quote directly from the Navy AD. You know .. someone that was involved in the media negotiations with ESPN. ESPN cared about football, that's it. UCONN football was horrible, so we we bring in someone that's better than a winless UCONN football team, the league is strong. Not that hard to comprehend.
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