Bracketology 2012-2013

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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby uniftw » March 4th, 2013, 9:51 am

TheAsianSensation wrote:I didn't realize it until the info showed up today, but Texas Southern has won the SWAC and the league's auto-bid to the NIT.

They're also APR'd out of the postseason. Their season is done. And hilarously, the SWAC is forced to waive their autobid to the NIT since their regular season champion is ineligible. They can't transfer that autobid to their #2 team just in case.

Oh, SWAC.

You guys interested in NIT/CBI/CIT projections? I think I would tell Northern Iowa you have a reasonable chance of getting shipped to Iowa in the NIT, knowing how those guys work.

Towson won the CAA and have the same issue has TSU.....


Maybe not in bracket form, if you don't have time, but as a team that is only getting NCAA's with the autobid and fighting for a NIT spot I'd like it.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby TheAsianSensation » March 4th, 2013, 10:38 am

If I have time? Pfft, I already did them, I just didn't wanna spam the thread. :D

I tried to simulate the NIT committee as closely as possible. This means 8 midmajors on the road as 5-6 seeds and 8 power conference schools as 3-4 seeds at home. :twisted:

Both Indiana St and Northern Iowa will be cutting it close, but I think both are fine unless the number of auto bids hit double digits. UNI finished 3rd but InSU has the bigger wins....I think they'll be about the same seed, give or take a line. If push came to shove, they'd take UNI over ISU if they had to choose.

EAST
1) St John's (16-12) vs. 8) St Joseph's (16-11)
4) LSU (17-10) vs. 5) Indiana St (16-13)
3) Mississippi (21-8) vs. 6) Ohio (21-8)
2) Massachusetts (18-9) vs. 7) Florida St (15-14)

SOUTH
1) Alabama (18-10) vs. 8) Eastern Kentucky (21-8)
4) Stanford (17-13) vs. 5) Denver (19-8)
3) Providence (16-12) vs. 6) Richmond (17-12)
2) Maryland (20-9) vs. 7) Texas A&M (17-12)

MIDWEST
1) Tennessee (17-11) vs. 8) Washington (16-13)
4) Xavier (16-12) vs. 5) Detroit (18-11)
3) Southern Miss (20-7) vs. 6) New Mexico St (18-10)
2) Baylor (16-12) vs. 7) Wyoming (16-11)

WEST
1) Arizona St (20-10) vs. 8) Weber St (20-5)
4) Air Force (14-11) vs. 5) BYU (20-10)
3) Iowa (18-11) vs. 6) Northern Iowa (17-13)
2) Arkansas (18-11) vs. 7) Charlotte (18-10)


CBI

This is usually guesswork trying to figure out which major conference schools would go. I'm just assuming everyone would say yes for now. Evansville is probably too far out for an NIT bid, so I put them in here with some BCS teams and some other NIT bubble teams.

Loyola(MD) (21-10) at Rutgers (13-14)
Lehigh (19-8) at St Bonventure (14-13)
Evansville (17-13) at Purdue (14-15)
Georgia (14-15) at Georgia Tech (15-13)
Murray St (18-9) at UTEP (16-12)
Northwestern St (15-8) at Texas (13-15)
North Dakota St (20-8) at Utah St (18-9)
Santa Clara (19-10) at USC (14-15)


CIT

Even more guesswork. Don't pay attention to individual matchups as much as the listing of teams in geographic range of you.

NJIT (12-11) at Rider (18-13)
Bryant (19-10) at Vermont (19-10)
Lafayette (16-14) at Delaware (18-12)
Dayton (16-12) at North Carolina Central (17-8)
Kent St (16-12) at Illinois St (17-14)
Wright St (18-11) at Western Illinois (19-7)
East Carolina (12-11) at South Alabama (16-11)
Elon (18-10) at Tennessee St (15-13)

Canisius (18-12) at Wagner (18-11)
Boston U (17-12) at Harvard (16-9)
James Madison (17-14) at Charleston (22-8)
High Point (15-12) at FCGU (19-10)
Bradley (16-15) at Green Bay (15-14)
Arkansas St (17-11) at Western Michigan (17-10)
Tulsa (14-13) at Pacific (15-12)
Texas-Arlington (17-10) at Oral Roberts (17-12)

Postseason bubble:
George Mason (17-13)
Iona (17-13)
Fairfield (17-14)
Tulane (17-11)
Florida International (16-13)
Long Island (17-13)
Albany (21-10)
Savannah St (15-12)
.....and really, most other teams with a winning record. We don't know who'll turn down bids...
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby 3ontheway » March 4th, 2013, 8:41 pm

asian sensation, you have an obscene amount of time for this stuff apparently. appreciate the hard work.
i would say that the odds of cu being paired up with the tar heels again in the first round are slim and none however. at this point, the only way the jays get out of the 7-10 seed range is either to win all 3 games handily (including wsu on sunday) and get a 6, or lose on friday and slip to hopefully an 11 ( but not left out!). i would rather the jays be an 11 or 12 than a 10, but 6 would be best. i gotta think if they win the tourney they would be low 20s rpi and their kenpom and sagarin would be 15-20 which COULD translate to a 6.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby uniftw » March 4th, 2013, 10:35 pm

A UNI/Iowa game in any capacity is going to be a freaking side show.

The blood between the two has been more that rotten the past couple years...especially with Iowa refusing to play at UNI ever again

It really would be something to see a situation where UNI/Iowa happened at UNI.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby shoxrox » March 5th, 2013, 12:00 am

I would LOVE your latest bracket, AS. Can we cash that in now pretty please?
USA Today Coaches Top 25 Poll Conference Breakdown:

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Atlantic Ten: 1
MWC: 1
Big East: 1

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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby TheAsianSensation » March 5th, 2013, 8:07 am

It doesn't take nearly as long as one thinks to get all those brackets together, especially once I lay out the framework the first time. Or maybe I'm just quick.

Kinda agree about Creighton - they'll either win up to the 7 line or lose back to the 9 or 10 line. Same with Wichita and where they're at. They're going to move a lot, also because of all the teams around them. There's going to be a lot of shuffling in between the 6 line and the 11 line, with almost nobody falling out.

Wichita will probably need to be a 9 or 11 to get themselves an in-state matchup in KC. Looking forward I see Kansas easily on the 1 line and Kansas St probably on the 3.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby shocktheheart » March 5th, 2013, 9:11 am

Lunardi's latest out. Creighton a 9 seed playing Missouri and WSU a 10 seed playing Colorado St. No mention of any other Valley team.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby TheAsianSensation » March 5th, 2013, 9:23 am

Hmm, my only disagreement with him on the field of 68 is Kentucky/Tennessee. My counter: it's tougher to win in Arkansas than anyone realizes.

Of course on the other hand Tennessee blitzed Kentucky. But I've got 3 teams in between UK and UT so I just can't swap all willy-nilly.

The SEC tournament is going to solve everything.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby Jays26 » March 5th, 2013, 9:41 am

shocktheheart wrote:Lunardi's latest out. Creighton a 9 seed playing Missouri and WSU a 10 seed playing Colorado St. No mention of any other Valley team.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology


Please Lord...get us out of the 8/9 seed.
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Re: Bracketology 2012-2013

Postby Jet915 » March 5th, 2013, 9:57 am

Jays26 wrote:
shocktheheart wrote:Lunardi's latest out. Creighton a 9 seed playing Missouri and WSU a 10 seed playing Colorado St. No mention of any other Valley team.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology


Please Lord...get us out of the 8/9 seed.


Unfortunately, we are in a bad position where winning Arch Madness gets us probably a 8 seed, at best a 7 and losing will probably put is in the 10-11 seed range. Given how they gave us an 8 last year when most pundits put us at 6, I have no faith we will get any better treatment.
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