How long before the AAC implodes?

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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Red » June 24th, 2019, 1:55 pm

Stickboy46 wrote:I mean .. you can disagree, but just makes you wrong.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status ... 4952963074

That's a quote directly from the Navy AD. You know .. someone that was involved in the media negotiations with ESPN. ESPN cared about football, that's it. UCONN football was horrible, so we we bring in someone that's better than a winless UCONN football team, the league is strong. Not that hard to comprehend.

What is he supposed to say? Of course that's the spin. But adding another garbage football team that no one cares about isn't going to help. You ain't adding Notre Dame. And whoever you add sure as heck won't offset the loss of by far the best basketball program historically.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Stickboy46 » June 24th, 2019, 2:09 pm

Red wrote:
Stickboy46 wrote:I mean .. you can disagree, but just makes you wrong.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status ... 4952963074

That's a quote directly from the Navy AD. You know .. someone that was involved in the media negotiations with ESPN. ESPN cared about football, that's it. UCONN football was horrible, so we we bring in someone that's better than a winless UCONN football team, the league is strong. Not that hard to comprehend.

What is he supposed to say? Of course that's the spin. But adding another garbage football team that no one cares about isn't going to help. You ain't adding Notre Dame. And whoever you add sure as heck won't offset the loss of by far the best basketball program historically.


I know you so desperately want it to be spin, but it's not spin.

The current talk is Army/Air Force/BYU as the primary focus for football only adds. Any of those 3 would make the league AS A WHOLE stronger .. without any doubt. If you say otherwise, you would just make yourself look dumb.

From the Basketball side, yes, losing UCONN hurts from a brand name perspective. They are easily replaced from a recent results perspective. They have made the tourney 1 time in the last 5 years. That's it. We wont get as strong as brand for sure, but we might get someone that would help the NET ranking.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Red » June 24th, 2019, 2:27 pm

Stickboy46 wrote:
Red wrote:
Stickboy46 wrote:I mean .. you can disagree, but just makes you wrong.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status ... 4952963074

That's a quote directly from the Navy AD. You know .. someone that was involved in the media negotiations with ESPN. ESPN cared about football, that's it. UCONN football was horrible, so we we bring in someone that's better than a winless UCONN football team, the league is strong. Not that hard to comprehend.

What is he supposed to say? Of course that's the spin. But adding another garbage football team that no one cares about isn't going to help. You ain't adding Notre Dame. And whoever you add sure as heck won't offset the loss of by far the best basketball program historically.


I know you so desperately want it to be spin, but it's not spin.

The current talk is Army/Air Force/BYU as the primary focus for football only adds. Any of those 3 would make the league AS A WHOLE stronger .. without any doubt. If you say otherwise, you would just make yourself look dumb.

From the Basketball side, yes, losing UCONN hurts from a brand name perspective. They are easily replaced from a recent results perspective. They have made the tourney 1 time in the last 5 years. That's it. We wont get as strong as brand for sure, but we might get someone that would help the NET ranking.

You realize UCONN has nearly a Top 20 recruiting class this year right? Hurley will have them making deep runs in the NCAAT before long.

Maybe what's funniest is how badly you want what you're saying to be true. Whether you add one or all of the service academies, the AAC is still going to be an afterthought in football. They won't materially improve the AAC and sure won't help with TV negotiations. And you don't even have a football team which makes WSU's situation ever worse.

You're the Baghdad Bob of this board. I love it.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Stickboy46 » June 24th, 2019, 2:38 pm

Red wrote:
Stickboy46 wrote:
Red wrote:What is he supposed to say? Of course that's the spin. But adding another garbage football team that no one cares about isn't going to help. You ain't adding Notre Dame. And whoever you add sure as heck won't offset the loss of by far the best basketball program historically.


I know you so desperately want it to be spin, but it's not spin.

The current talk is Army/Air Force/BYU as the primary focus for football only adds. Any of those 3 would make the league AS A WHOLE stronger .. without any doubt. If you say otherwise, you would just make yourself look dumb.

From the Basketball side, yes, losing UCONN hurts from a brand name perspective. They are easily replaced from a recent results perspective. They have made the tourney 1 time in the last 5 years. That's it. We wont get as strong as brand for sure, but we might get someone that would help the NET ranking.

You realize UCONN has nearly a Top 20 recruiting class this year right? Hurley will have them making deep runs in the NCAAT before long.

Maybe what's funniest is how badly you want what you're saying to be true. Whether you add one or all of the service academies, the AAC is still going to be an afterthought in football. They won't materially improve the AAC and sure won't help with TV negotiations. And you don't even have a football team which makes WSU's situation ever worse.

You're the Baghdad Bob of this board. I love it.

In 2016 they had the #8 recruiting class ... and ended that year ... 16-17, under .500
Then the next year ? 14-18
Then the next year (with Hurley at that)? 16-17

So they rode the NUMBER 8 recruiting class to a 46-52 record over the next 3 years. A whopping 47% win percentage. So yea .. they haven't contributed much in the last 5 years so replacing their on the court performance wont be hard. Replacing the the prestige that was built by a single coach (Calhoun) will be nearly impossible.

Well... guess no matter how many facts i throw out there, you are just gonna ignore it. Some times it's just best to let idiots like yourself think you are right.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Red » June 24th, 2019, 2:42 pm

Stickboy46 wrote:In 2016 they had the #8 recruiting class ... and ended that year ... 16-17, under .500
Then the next year ? 14-18
Then the next year (with Hurley at that)? 16-17

So they rode the NUMBER 8 recruiting class to a 46-52 record over the next 3 years. A whopping 47% win percentage. So yea .. they haven't contributed much in the last 5 years so replacing their on the court performance wont be hard. Replacing the the prestige that was built by a single coach (Calhoun) will be nearly impossible.

Well... guess no matter how many facts i throw out there, you are just gonna ignore it. Some times it's just best to let idiots like yourself think you are right.

Time will tell. I feel very comfortable in my assertion that the AAC is trending down and not up. Hell, in 5 years when the next round of realignment happens, no doubt every AAC worth a damn will by dying to get out (again).
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby BEARZ77 » June 24th, 2019, 2:48 pm

I think all you have to know about AAC football is UCF. Two undefeated seasons and they couldn't get a sniff at the playoffs; now I don't believe that's right, but it says what it says. As far as basketball, it's a really good conference who 5 of it's best programs will leave for football $$$ the minute they can. Maybe that's 5 years, maybe it's closer than that.

To me UCON is a sign of things to come. They chased the football $$$, found they couldn't compete or even get invited to the party. In the meantime they really hurt their outstanding basketball programs and now realizing that that's their ticket, make a solid move to resolidify their Bell-Cows. To WSU's credit, they've always known Basketball was their ticket, it's just a matter of where is that best served and how do they navigate that path.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby uniguy » June 24th, 2019, 4:55 pm

Been awhile since we've had a good Wichita vs. Everybody pi**ing match. Good to see some things never change.
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby CoolArrow » June 24th, 2019, 7:07 pm

Stickboy46 wrote:
Red wrote:
Stickboy46 wrote:I mean .. you can disagree, but just makes you wrong.

https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status ... 4952963074

That's a quote directly from the Navy AD. You know .. someone that was involved in the media negotiations with ESPN. ESPN cared about football, that's it. UCONN football was horrible, so we we bring in someone that's better than a winless UCONN football team, the league is strong. Not that hard to comprehend.

What is he supposed to say? Of course that's the spin. But adding another garbage football team that no one cares about isn't going to help. You ain't adding Notre Dame. And whoever you add sure as heck won't offset the loss of by far the best basketball program historically.


I know you so desperately want it to be spin, but it's not spin.

The current talk is Army/Air Force/BYU as the primary focus for football only adds. Any of those 3 would make the league AS A WHOLE stronger .. without any doubt. If you say otherwise, you would just make yourself look dumb.

From the Basketball side, yes, losing UCONN hurts from a brand name perspective. They are easily replaced from a recent results perspective. They have made the tourney 1 time in the last 5 years. That's it. We wont get as strong as brand for sure, but we might get someone that would help the NET ranking.


I saw some argue that Houston, Memphis and Cincinnati are similar brands to Uconn in hoops. Memphis hasnt made the tournament in years. Their program is perhaps on the rise but they will never be uttered in the same breath as UCONN. Convenient for you to only mention the last 5 years, since exactly 5 years ago they won it all. Houston has had a few really good seasons, lets see how long they keep it up. VCU or Dayton hoops are okay but they dont have nearly the national recognition or brand as Uconn. Fact!
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby VUGrad1314 » June 24th, 2019, 8:34 pm

UCONN has four national titles. FOUR. All since 1999. Even counting all the way back to the 50s and 60s does the rest of the AAC even have four cumulatively? I'm seriously asking. This is a huge blow to the prestige of the AAC. Sure adding VCU Dayton SLU ODU whoever will give them another solid program and they will retain their 2-3 bid status in all likelihood but the notion that this loss can be shrugged off is absolutely laughable. UCONN is also getting a big win in its olympic sports with this move as well I think (better league and less travel)
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Re: How long before the AAC implodes?

Postby Kip Dynamite » June 25th, 2019, 6:37 am

Missouri State's AD was on the radio yesterday and was asked about this and he said he expects more movement in the near future. Thinks the SEC will add two more teams causing a ripple effect throughout again. Said his personal opinion for the Valley was to add a couple of new teams from the west to help Mo State out since we are now the outlier in the conference.
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