Conference Realignment - impact on MVC?

[matter_of_fact]

I haven't read this entire topic so this may have already been said. I don't see how Creighton can really lose with this possible realignment. If they get an invite to the C7. or as my friend calls it the "Big Privates Conference," and they go, that will be an exciting new chapter for Creighton athletics that will provide greater national exposure. If they don't get invited or decline an invitation, they remain as one of the premiuer athletic and adademic schools in the MVC.

[rjl]

I haven't read this entire topic so this may have already been said. I don't see how Creighton can really lose with this possible realignment. If they get an invite to the C7. or as my friend calls it the "Big Privates Conference," and they go, that will be an exciting new chapter for Creighton athletics that will provide greater national exposure. If they don't get invited or decline an invitation, they remain as one of the premiuer athletic and adademic schools in the MVC.

The only bad thing I can see in it for Creighton is that if they do not get an invite to the C7 for whatever reason, they may lose some "pull" with the Missouri Valley office.

If there ever was any chance that the MVC tournament would move to KC, as slim as it may have been, it's presumably gone now. If Creighton leaves, the only schools left to push for it would be WSU and maybe MSU. If Creighton does not get an invite, the Valley office may realize that they don't have to cowtow to CU because CU doesn't have the options it once appeared it did.

There is a third scenario whereby Creighton gets an invite to the C7 and uses it to negotiate with the Valley, but I really think they'd be stupid not to leave the Valley for the Catholic league unless they got something really sweet from the MVC.

[pafan]

If there ever was any chance that the MVC tournament would move to KC, as slim as it may have been, it's presumably gone now. If Creighton leaves, the only schools left to push for it would be WSU and maybe MSU. If Creighton does not get an invite, the Valley office may realize that they don't have to cowtow to CU because CU doesn't have the options it once appeared it did.

Without CU, StL becomes a slightly too far west location for the tournament, with CU's departure moving the geographic "center" of the conference in far western Illinois, between Hannibal, MO and Springfield, IL.

[DoubleJayAlum]

I haven't read this entire topic so this may have already been said. I don't see how Creighton can really lose with this possible realignment. If they get an invite to the C7. or as my friend calls it the "Big Privates Conference," and they go, that will be an exciting new chapter for Creighton athletics that will provide greater national exposure. If they don't get invited or decline an invitation, they remain as one of the premiuer athletic and adademic schools in the MVC.

The only bad thing I can see in it for Creighton is that if they do not get an invite to the C7 for whatever reason, they may lose some "pull" with the Missouri Valley office.

If there ever was any chance that the MVC tournament would move to KC, as slim as it may have been, it's presumably gone now. If Creighton leaves, the only schools left to push for it would be WSU and maybe MSU. If Creighton does not get an invite, the Valley office may realize that they don't have to cowtow to CU because CU doesn't have the options it once appeared it did.

There is a third scenario whereby Creighton gets an invite to the C7 and uses it to negotiate with the Valley, but I really think they'd be stupid not to leave the Valley for the Catholic league unless they got something really sweet from the MVC.

Ha! We've got no pull now! I can't think of anything Creighton has wanted that the league did. That is part of the reason why the league shouldn't be all that surprised if we accept any offer that proffered. To be frank, the league hasn't shown that it even cares if Creighton is a member or not.

[WhiskeySierraUniform]

I haven't read this entire topic so this may have already been said. I don't see how Creighton can really lose with this possible realignment. If they get an invite to the C7. or as my friend calls it the "Big Privates Conference," and they go, that will be an exciting new chapter for Creighton athletics that will provide greater national exposure. If they don't get invited or decline an invitation, they remain as one of the premiuer athletic and adademic schools in the MVC.

The only bad thing I can see in it for Creighton is that if they do not get an invite to the C7 for whatever reason, they may lose some "pull" with the Missouri Valley office.

If there ever was any chance that the MVC tournament would move to KC, as slim as it may have been, it's presumably gone now. If Creighton leaves, the only schools left to push for it would be WSU and maybe MSU. If Creighton does not get an invite, the Valley office may realize that they don't have to cowtow to CU because CU doesn't have the options it once appeared it did.

There is a third scenario whereby Creighton gets an invite to the C7 and uses it to negotiate with the Valley, but I really think they'd be stupid not to leave the Valley for the Catholic league unless they got something really sweet from the MVC.

Ha! We've got no pull now! I can't think of anything Creighton has wanted that the league did. That is part of the reason why the league shouldn't be all that surprised if we accept any offer that proffered. To be frank, the league hasn't shown that it even cares if Creighton is a member or not.

Do you want a tissue? Maybe some cheese to go with that whine? Good grief man!

[DoubleJayAlum]

Do you want a tissue? Maybe some cheese to go with that whine? Good grief man!

Not whining at all. rjl just said that CU could lose some of its pull if its stays in the MVC. I was just saying that we don't have any pull to lose!

[uniftw]

If there ever was any chance that the MVC tournament would move to KC, as slim as it may have been, it's presumably gone now. If Creighton leaves, the only schools left to push for it would be WSU and maybe MSU. If Creighton does not get an invite, the Valley office may realize that they don't have to cowtow to CU because CU doesn't have the options it once appeared it did.

Without CU, StL becomes a slightly too far west location for the tournament, with CU's departure moving the geographic "center" of the conference in far western Illinois, between Hannibal, MO and Springfield, IL.

As the conference sits right now a couple west of the Hannibal, MO airport. Without Creighton it moves to a couple miles east of the Ted Shanks Wildlife Area.

Total distance of the shift in geographic mid-point is 28.6 miles SE


Total straight line distance, it moves 30 miles SE of where it currently is.

[xsaluki]

Time to bulldoze Ted's wildlife area and put up Ted shanks arena, hotel and casino.

[rjl]

Ha! We've got no pull now! I can't think of anything Creighton has wanted that the league did. That is part of the reason why the league shouldn't be all that surprised if we accept any offer that proffered. To be frank, the league hasn't shown that it even cares if Creighton is a member or not.

Point taken.

While you certainly wouldn't have any pull in the C7, given how things would presumably be set up at first, your base-level situation would be superior to that of the Valley. Sort of like losing all your seniority by starting a new job but starting at a higher salary.

[TheAsianSensation]

I've always theorized that if there's some kind of split within FBS where the top 60-70 schools take off from the rest into a new top division, that a C7 centered conference may be the one non-football conference that could get invited to that top division (to supplement markets/better basketball/etc).

Which is why as the talk goes on and on, I think you just have to take an invite, warts and all, if it comes.