2013-2014 Bracketology thread

[TheAsianSensation]

In a completely unrelated note, I'm confused. I saw a Pitt/Clemson score and automatically thought, "Pitt's gonna lose. They always screw this kind of game up". Then 15 minutes later, see it again, and automatically thought, "Clemson's gonna lose. They always screw this kind of game up".

I think this game might've broken my space-time continuum.

[TheAsianSensation]

In a completely unrelated note, I'm confused. I saw a Pitt/Clemson score and automatically thought, "Pitt's gonna lose. They always screw this kind of game up". Then 15 minutes later, see it again, and automatically thought, "Clemson's gonna lose. They always screw this kind of game up".

I think this game might've broken my space-time continuum.

ahahahahahaha

This game

After I posted that...Clemson leads by 5 with 5 seconds to go. Pitt makes a 3.

Clemson then throws away the ball, trying to give away the game. Pitt recovers, but the guy who recovers, with just a second left on the clock, decides he needs to pump fake before shooting. He makes the bucket, but the ball doesn't get out of his hands before the clock hits 0.0 and the red light shows up.

Except....on further review, the clock behind the basket and the official game clock on the center scoreboard don't line up. As in they're not synched up. The clock on the center scoreboard says he got it off in time, although every other clock/light says he didn't.

So Clemson's faulty clock means the basket counts, and they're going to OT.

This is so great

[TheAsianSensation]

Update: If Wichita wins out, who can still finish ahead of them on the S-Curve? This assumes everyone wins out.

Definitely: Florida, Arizona (Arizona stays as #2 overall on my board)

Maybe: Wisconsin, Duke, Michigan, Villanova

Probably not, but not impossible: Virginia

For the first time all season, I have Wichita as controlling their own destiny for a 1 seed. I still might put Wisky ahead of them overall if both win out...but I'm starting to think that the ACC winner won't have enough, and Michigan did too much non-con damage, and Nova's resume was dependent on Iowa standing up as its 2nd best win...and it's not holding up very well with age.


Meanwhile, Indiana State's NIT Bid Poach Watch is at 2:
Big South (High Point)
OVC (Belmont, but more specifically Eastern Kentucky going from CBI/CIT to NCAA)

[MSUDuo]

I realize this "game" doesn't ever tell the whole story but let's play, just for fun

Team A: 25-6, top 15 RPI
Team B: 24-7, top 15 RPI

Both teams have the same record against the top 50.
Team A has 2 more wins against the top 100.
Both teams played a top 50 schedule.
Team A won their conference by 2 games. Team B finished 2nd by 1 game.

Team A is about 20 spots higher on the S-curve for most bracketologists and if told you they won a BCS conference, most could guess who it is.

[TheAsianSensation]

I realize this "game" doesn't ever tell the whole story but let's play, just for fun

Team A: 25-6, top 15 RPI
Team B: 24-7, top 15 RPI

Both teams have the same record against the top 50.
Team A has 2 more wins against the top 100.
Both teams played a top 50 schedule.
Team A won their conference by 2 games. Team B finished 2nd by 1 game.

Team A is about 20 spots higher on the S-curve for most bracketologists and if told you they won a BCS conference, most could guess who it is.

If these are the two teams I think you're talking about, you left out the best piece of data! Team B beat Team A on the road

[MSUDuo]

I realize this "game" doesn't ever tell the whole story but let's play, just for fun

Team A: 25-6, top 15 RPI
Team B: 24-7, top 15 RPI

Both teams have the same record against the top 50.
Team A has 2 more wins against the top 100.
Both teams played a top 50 schedule.
Team A won their conference by 2 games. Team B finished 2nd by 1 game.

Team A is about 20 spots higher on the S-curve for most bracketologists and if told you they won a BCS conference, most could guess who it is.

If these are the two teams I think you're talking about, you left out the best piece of data! Team B beat Team A on the road

Did not know that but makes my point even more, why the big discrepancy? There is little difference between the 2 teams, let alone 20 spots on the S-curve

[TheAsianSensation]

Did not know that but makes my point even more, why the big discrepancy? There is little difference between the 2 teams, let alone 20 spots on the S-curve

I'll have about 12-14 teams in between the two after today. Devil is in the details, as usual. Team A played better teams within each of the subsets you identified. Plus, team A is hot right now and everyone, me included, are probably highballing them based on their resume because they're hot.

[rlh04d]

Man, and Wisconsin falls to Nebraska.

[MissouriValleyUnite]

Sycamores dangerously close to the NIT cutline.

High Point
Belmont
Florida Gulf Coast
Vermont
Green Bay
Davidson

All consume NIT bids.

Also takes a lot of the fun out of potential Round of 64 upsets, as all of the above sans High Point would've stood a legitimate chance. Probably not the year to pick 14+ upsets, though I do like Stephen F Austin.

[TheAsianSensation]

The 1 line: Florida (29-2), Arizona (28-3), Wichita St (33-0), Villanova (28-3)
The 2 line: Wisconsin (25-6), Kansas (23-8), Michigan (23-7), Syracuse (27-4)
The 3 line: Duke (24-7), San Diego St (25-3), Virginia (25-6), Cincinnati (26-5)
The 4 line: North Carolina (23-8), Louisville (26-5), Creighton (24-6), Iowa St (23-7)
The 5 line: Michigan St (23-8), St Louis (25-5), Oklahoma (23-8), Texas (22-9)
The 6 line: UConn (24-7), Ohio St (23-8), UMass (23-7), VCU (24-7)
The 7 line: Memphis (22-8), UCLA (23-8), New Mexico (24-6), George Washington (23-7)
The 8 line: Kentucky (22-9), Oregon (22-8), Baylor (19-10), Gonzaga (25-6)
The 9 line: Kansas St (20-11), SMU (23-8), Colorado (21-10), Oklahoma St (20-11)
The 10 line: Iowa (19-11), Arizona St (21-10), Pittsburgh (23-8), BYU (21-10)
The 11 line: Xavier (19-11), Stanford (19-11), St Joseph's (21-9), Nebraska (19-11), Arkansas (21-10)
The 12 line: Tennessee (19-11), Dayton (22-9), Louisiana Tech (24-6), North Dakota St (20-6), Iona (22-9)
The 13 line: Harvard (25-4), Mercer (23-8), Delaware (24-9), Boston (24-9)
The 14 line: Western Michigan (20-9), Stephen F Austin (25-2), UC Irvine (20-10), North Carolina Central (23-5)
The 15 line: Georgia St (22-7), Eastern Kentucky (22-9), Stony Brook (22-9), Wright St (18-13)
The 16 line: Robert Morris (21-12), Utah Valley (17-10), Weber St (15-11), Wofford (16-12), Coastal Carolina (18-12), Texas Southern (15-14)

Tail end of the lockbox:
Oregon
Baylor
Gonzaga
Kansas St
SMU

Bubble in:
Colorado
Oklahoma St
Iowa
Arizona St
Pittsburgh

Next 4 in:
BYU
Xavier
Stanford
St Joseph's

Last 4 in:
Nebraska
Arkansas
Tennessee
Dayton

Last 4 out:
California (19-12)
Minnesota (18-12)
Georgetown (17-13)
Providence (20-11)

Next 4 out:
Southern Miss (24-5)
St John's (20-11)
Missouri (21-10)
Florida St (18-12)

Bubble inception: WE NEED TO GO DEEPER
West Virginia (17-14)
Green Bay (21-6)
*Louisiana Tech


deeper down...
NIT bubble:
Indiana (17-14)
Marquette (17-14)
St Mary's (21-10)
Washington (17-14)
Richmond (18-13)
Indiana St (21-10)
Boise St (17-12)
San Francisco (19-10)
Middle Tennessee (21-8)
---cutline---
last out of the NIT: Manhattan, New Mexico St, Ole Miss, UNLV

The bracket - note Wisky takes Kansas' spot in the midwest bracket, preventing a Wichita/Kansas showdown that would result in a vortex opening and swallowing the entire state. And boy, Kentucky is in a collision course with Wichita if they stay on the 8/9 line.

I actually had Kansas St as the 9 seed in here, until bracket conflicts elsewhere forced them out.

You may have to start thinking about playing Cincinnati in Indianapolis - not the greatest setup. Also, one top ACC team is a mortal lock to be in the bracket.

MIDWEST
@St Louis
1) Wichita St (33-0) vs. 16) Weber St (15-11)/Texas Southern (15-14)
8) Kentucky (22-9) vs. 9) Colorado (21-10)
@Orlando
4) North Carolina (23-8) vs. 13) Harvard (25-4)
5) St Louis (25-5) vs. 12) Tennessee (19-11)/Nebraska (19-11)
@San Antonio
3) Cincinnati (26-5) vs. 14) Western Michigan (20-9)
6) VCU (24-7) vs. 11) Xavier (19-11)
@Milwaukee
2) Wisconsin (25-6) vs. 15) Wright St (18-13)
7) UCLA (23-8) vs. 10) Pittsburgh (23-8)