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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby Bluejay09Bear06 » April 9th, 2011, 3:22 pm

C0|db|00ded wrote:In the future, SWOMO should consider increasing their budget for coaching salaries if they seek to improve the stability and quality of their basketball program.


I actually agree with this, but you should know Zo was offered $760k and still bolted. Money was certainly part of Zo's departure, but the bigger issue was the league - he won 25 games and a regular season conference championship, and did not reach the NCAA's, so he bailed. Can't say I blame him.

I personally think MSU should dump its moneypit of a football program and invest that money into basketball.
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Postby carrcar » April 9th, 2011, 3:42 pm

Bluejay09Bear06 wrote:
C0|db|00ded wrote:In the future, SWOMO should consider increasing their budget for coaching salaries if they seek to improve the stability and quality of their basketball program.


I actually agree with this, but you should know Zo was offered $760k and still bolted. Money was certainly part of Zo's departure, but the bigger issue was the league - he won 25 games and a regular season conference championship, and did not reach the NCAA's, so he bailed. Can't say I blame him.

I personally think MSU should dump its moneypit of a football program and invest that money into basketball.

Even St. Ambrose has football...oh, I forgot, Creighton is a Jesuit school. Never mind, you wouldn't understand.
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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby BEELINE » April 9th, 2011, 4:05 pm

Again your viewpoint isn't supported by fact Cold. Is your goal to win championships, or is it to retain individuals regardless of outcomes. It has been proven you don't need to pay $750,000 to 1.5 million for a coach to win MVC Championships and make the NCAA Tourney, and coversely that paying such doesn't equate to those outcomes. In fact the most recent yearly outcomes are the opposite; coaches win championships more often in this league before they get to that level of reimbursement.

I'm glad your goal at WSU is to pay top $ and try to retain individuals, it's worked for now with Marshall though I think you'll see the same eventually with him as you did with Turgeon. The salary will continue to rise, but in the end it won't be the determining factor in if he stays. I like the model at other schools where winning championships is the goal , and it's recognized that there is no need to pay insane money to do so. I'll hope MSU continues to worry more about the league race than the salary race.
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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby iSASO » April 9th, 2011, 10:24 pm

BEELINE wrote:I'll hope MSU continues to worry more about the league race than the salary race.


I'm glad that WSU is more interested in building a program that can be successful at the national level, not settling for success at the league level. I guess you expect that mindset from a program that has been to more than one Sweet 16 in its entire history.

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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby shockem » April 10th, 2011, 7:29 am

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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby DoubleJayAlum » April 10th, 2011, 8:56 am

Bluejay09Bear06 wrote:I personally think MSU should dump its moneypit of a football program and invest that money into basketball.


Probably true of most of the Valley football teams. If SIU doesn't have FB, they could probably afford to fire Lowery. If UNI doesn't have FB, they wouldn't have to threaten to drop to D2 if the state gravy train were to be cut off.
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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby PeKaph » April 10th, 2011, 4:57 pm

I just think it's fitting that Obscene Gesture U. has a coach so happy to be a big fish in a little drainage culvert that he's happy to take the money and stay in the second division. He's like the Joe Johnson of college basketball.
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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby unipanther99 » April 10th, 2011, 5:04 pm

DoubleJayAlum wrote:
Bluejay09Bear06 wrote:I personally think MSU should dump its moneypit of a football program and invest that money into basketball.


Probably true of most of the Valley football teams. If SIU doesn't have FB, they could probably afford to fire Lowery. If UNI doesn't have FB, they wouldn't have to threaten to drop to D2 if the state gravy train were to be cut off.


There was no threat to drop to D2. That was never on the table and it was well document that dropping a division would be a money loser, not money saver. As for the "state gravy train," UNI is no different than almost any public school it's size, and is actually in better shape than quite a few. The Board of Regents wanted a study to see what the numbers were, how UNI compared to others, and they were all satisfied with the result. A couple changes were made, and the UNI football program will be revenue neutral going forward.
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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby BEELINE » April 10th, 2011, 6:19 pm

I'm glad that WSU is more interested in building a program that can be successful at the national level, not settling for success at the league level. I guess you expect that mindset from a program that has been to more than one Sweet 16 in its entire history.


Really isaso; how's that national mindset working out for ya? Is this going to be another one of those silly arguments in which you try to say what happened 25-30 years ago is the basis for your stance. I read the other day that Chicago State has more overall Big Ten titles in sports than Purdue does historically. I'm sure Purdue frets about that. Or surely after the years of grief you gave CU about the NIT, that's not what you're trying to hang your hat on,is it ?

Let's just deal with the reality that the way WSU has gone about things for the last 20 years has resulted in them having the least combined total of NCAA appearences, MVC titles, and MVC tourney titles in men's basketball of all the teams in the league. And isn't that what everyone tends to use as their measuring stick for on court success ? And granted, while MSU has far from had the best approach to sustaining program success during that time compared to other Valley constituents, it has been enough to attain better results than WSU from the minute we stepped in the league till now. In every way; combined championships, NCAA tourney appearences, head to head competition,average conference finish. Now we know we haven't attained anything close to the level we want or need to, but you seem a bit delusional in regards to WSU in the same context. But I do love how Cold sets up these opportunities to educate about factual data though. I'm not sure who all you think it catches, but it almost always brings you out isaso. Nicely played Cold.

So anyway you hang on to that " national level" mindset, but somehow I think you're going to have to first be a little better in your own neighborhood to get there.
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Re: Gregg Marshall made $1,213,000.00 this year

Postby DUBulldog » April 10th, 2011, 6:50 pm

BEELINE wrote:
I'm glad that WSU is more interested in building a program that can be successful at the national level, not settling for success at the league level. I guess you expect that mindset from a program that has been to more than one Sweet 16 in its entire history.


Really isaso; how's that national mindset working out for ya? Is this going to be another one of those silly arguments in which you try to say what happened 25-30 years ago is the basis for your stance. I read the other day that Chicago State has more overall Big Ten titles in sports than Purdue does historically. I'm sure Purdue frets about that. Or surely after the years of grief you gave CU about the NIT, that's not what you're trying to hang your hat on,is it ?


I'm pretty sure it's the University of Chicago, not Chicago State. Either way, it's ancient history.
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