Jake Odum

[45otseoj]

Yes, they were. I said in the MVC where everyone plays an identical sample.

PPG: Kwadzo wins
Kwadzo 15.2
Young 13.7
Odum 11.1

RPG: Odum wins
Odum 4.5
Kwadzo 3.3
Young 2.4

APG: Odum and Young tie
Odum 4.8
Young 4.8
Kwadzo 3.2

SPG: Odum wins
Odum 2.1
Young 1.1
Kwadzo 0.6

BPG: Odum and Young tie
Odum 0.2
Young 0.2
Kwadzo 0.1

TPG: ...
Odum 2.3
Kwadzo 2.3
Young 2.3

[dgreenwell3]

Yeah I think at the very least Odum is comparable to those two..

[Snapshot9]

Yes, they were. I said in the MVC where everyone plays an identical sample.

PPG: Kwadzo wins
Kwadzo 15.2
Young 13.7
Odum 11.1

RPG: Odum wins
Odum 4.5
Kwadzo 3.3
Young 2.4

APG: Odum and Young tie
Odum 4.8
Young 4.8
Kwadzo 3.2

SPG: Odum wins
Odum 2.1
Young 1.1
Kwadzo 0.6

BPG: Odum and Young tie
Odum 0.2
Young 0.2
Kwadzo 0.1

TPG: ...
Odum 2.3
Kwadzo 2.3
Young 2.3

And your stats come from where? Mine were conference stats! (as you can tell from the link)

[Bawss]

This is one of the reasons why Sycamore fans have developed the whiny reputation they have. It's simply mind-boggling in their minds that somebody could deserve an award over their Indiana State guy in Jake Odum. After all, they were the team that got hot in 3 days.

Yeah, let's ignore that the team had one of the largest in conference win streaks coming into the tournament.

[uniftw]

From the stats, I would say Kwadzo was the best all around PG, although I think Odum was more important to his team and their performance.

http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/ind.pdf

After Lucas went down UNI pretty much sucked...however, without Kwadzo UNI isn't even in any of those games.

[dgreenwell3]

This is one of the reasons why Sycamore fans have developed the whiny reputation they have. It's simply mind-boggling in their minds that somebody could deserve an award over their Indiana State guy in Jake Odum. After all, they were the team that got hot in 3 days.

Yeah, let's ignore that the team had one of the largest in conference win streaks coming into the tournament.

Man, you aren't gonna get anywhere...SSOM went statitistical and all peeps said was "ISU fans have such a whiny reputation."...I think most just ignore the fact that we played WSU tough 2/3 (one victory) times during the season and BEAT MSU 2/3 times this year lol it's ok though, guess we gotta get back to the tourney next year lol..

[45otseoj]

And your stats come from where? Mine were conference stats! (as you can tell from the link)

The stats I gave are stats that I compiled during the season for a MVC Fantasy League. Go ahead and check. You'll find that they're correct.

You're stats we're not conference stats; they were season stats. I pulled my stats from the 18 Valley games.

You also have to remember that Odum didn't really come into his own until he started getting major minutes.

[LJay]

That argument is sorta the same as saying, well I shot one under in golf today. That was a 35 on a par 36 back nine. Yeah, I shot 42 on the front but I'm going to throw that out, I wasn't warmed up yet.

The whole season is the whole season and cherry picking numbers to make your numbers work the way you want them to work is dumb.

[dgreenwell3]

No, it's like only playing the back nine. Which is semi true. Plus the only type of variable where we KNOW these guys faced similar competition is in the valley and throwing it to the way side is pretty idiotic imo...but hey just wait till next year.

[uniftw]

To try to argue that Kwadzo wasn't the best PG in the conference last year, and use steals per game as part of the argument, is ridiculous.