If it was your team

[TylerDurden]

Seck for MOP!!!

[dgreenwell3]

Well could anyone make a case for maybe an Andrew Warren?

[DUBulldog]

Well could anyone make a case for maybe an Andrew Warren?

I can't remember how Warren did against WSU, but I know he was only 5-19 against DU in the 1st round.

[beatingrillz]

What do want to replace Leonard? Weems? Mallet? Leonard was huge in the come back against SIU. Weems was touch and go but his defense against Creighton and isuB. Mallet did it all, all weekend. What reasons do you have that they didn't deserve it.

[BEELINE]

You make this almost too easy "give me heart". Since your contention is that at least two of the guys who should have been chosen over Weems and Mallett were Lawson and Mc Dermott, then really all they had to do was prove it in the semi final game. Win the game and then Lawson and Mc Dermott could have played a 3rd game in the championship round and gotten recognized. So what did they do:

lawson : 12pts, 7rbs, 0 assists, 0 stls, 3 blks
McDermott: 9pts, 7rbs, 3 assists, 0 stls, 0 blks

Weems: 15pts, 7rbs, 3 assists, 4 stls, 4 blks
Mallett: 18pts, 11rbs, 1 assist, 1 stl, 0 blks

Final: MSU 60
CU 50

And you conveniently forget that the Bears held CU to 19 pts and 29% shooting in the second half. Leonard had 10 pts , but it wasn't a good shooting game for him, however, he had 0 turnovers as the Bears only turned it over 3 times the entire game. If little Mac and Lawson wanted to be all tourney they had to win that game; they didn't and they were clearly out performed by the Bear duo.

[give me heart]

And you conveniently forget that the Bears held CU to 19 pts and 29% shooting in the second half. Leonard had 10 pts , but it wasn't a good shooting game for him, however, he had 0 turnovers as the Bears only turned it over 3 times the entire game. If little Mac and Lawson wanted to be all tourney they had to win that game; they didn't and they were clearly out performed by the Bear duo.

Congratulations for beating Creighton. It was a well played game. I can't say that for the SIU game. Southern Illinois held MSU to 33% shooting and MSU barely beat a 5-13 team. In the championship game, if it wasn't for a heroic effort by Mallett, it wouldn't have been close.

So if what you're saying is winning is a determining factor in deciding who should make the all tourney team and MSU lost the championship then why do they deserve three players. I am not going to go berate individuals to prove my point. Like I referenced earlier, three players chosen from the losing team is so rare it's like finding a needle in a haystack.

Let me ask this: Was the rest of the MSU team so bad that they could have three players put up all tourney performances,one of them the mvp, and lose to ISUb? Something doesn't add up.

[TylerDurden]

And you conveniently forget that the Bears held CU to 19 pts and 29% shooting in the second half. Leonard had 10 pts , but it wasn't a good shooting game for him, however, he had 0 turnovers as the Bears only turned it over 3 times the entire game. If little Mac and Lawson wanted to be all tourney they had to win that game; they didn't and they were clearly out performed by the Bear duo.

Congratulations for beating Creighton. It was a well played game. I can't say that for the SIU game. Southern Illinois held MSU to 33% shooting and MSU barely beat a 5-13 team. In the championship game, if it wasn't for a heroic effort by Mallett, it wouldn't have been close.

So if what you're saying is winning is a determining factor in deciding who should make the all tourney team and MSU lost the championship then why do they deserve three players. I am not going to go berate individuals to prove my point. Like I referenced earlier, three players chosen from the losing team is so rare it's like finding a needle in a haystack.

Let me ask this: Was the rest of the MSU team so bad that they could have three players put up all tourney performances,one of them the mvp, and lose to ISUb? Something doesn't add up.

Who do you choose instead? It's fine to disagree with the picks, but you have to replace those guys with someone else.

[dgreenwell3]

How about Myles Walker? His defense and rebounding was intregal to Indiana State's success in the tournament including a 14 point 6 rebound game against WSU.

[DUBulldog]

So if what you're saying is winning is a determining factor in deciding who should make the all tourney team and MSU lost the championship then why do they deserve three players.

Again, the voting is done before the championship game is over. So, at the time of the voting, nobody knew that MSU was the losing team.

Are you suggesting that there was something underhanded in the voting? Does it even matter who was on the team? It's 2 months ago. A year from now, nobody will even remember who was the all-tourney team. Most probably don't even remember now.

Don't sweat the small stuff.

[give me heart]

I have offered to you three players that I saw play that I thought had a good tournament. Posted earlier in the thread

Remember Weems was 13 for 47 and Leonard was 11 for 36. Weems had one good game and that was against Creighton.

Lawson, McDermott and Durley had two good games and should have been considered.

I wish I would have seen the ''play in round'', because; I saw Mamadou against MSU and he was dominate in that game. Lawson was 11 for 18 and the main reason MSU played CU instead of UNI. McDermott played solid basketball.

Would you rather have 10-19 and 20 boards or 13-47 and 20 boards. Simplistic way to present my point but I watched about every minute of the tourney and was impressed with some of the players I've mentioned and not just because of scoring. It was the affect they had on the game. Poor shooting always has a negative affect. Seriously, folks, a person that shoots 27% for the tourney is not deserving. It cheated someone out of a special honor.

When the voting took place, MSU was losing. Is it being suggested that the voters just felt like MSU would win. It was a biased media voting and that in itself is one of my main points. Fairness, Sportsmanship and Honesty.