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Postby Trapped in CA » July 22nd, 2011, 5:20 pm

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Postby beatingrillz » July 24th, 2011, 3:16 pm

http://www.kansas.com/2011/07/24/194559 ... qus_thread
Does this count as legs? Seems WSU was premature in denouncing any link to Salinas.
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Re: SI article from CNN

Postby AndShock » July 24th, 2011, 3:51 pm

beatingrillz wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyO_aM_lraI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does this count as legs? Seems WSU was premature in denouncing any link to Salinas.


I guess I see a couple legs in that video.
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Re: SI article from CNN

Postby beatingrillz » July 24th, 2011, 4:08 pm

AndShock wrote:
beatingrillz wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyO_aM_lraI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does this count as legs? Seems WSU was premature in denouncing any link to Salinas.


I guess I see a couple legs in that video.


Oops I had just clicked a link on BearNation I guess I hit copy instead. My bad. Link is fixed now.
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Re: SI article from CNN

Postby oneNEIGHBOR » July 24th, 2011, 6:31 pm

Can you get in trouble for getting a donation? :huh: I sure hope this doesn't turn into anything.
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Re: SI article from CNN

Postby panther-state » July 24th, 2011, 9:05 pm

beatingrillz wrote:
AndShock wrote:
beatingrillz wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyO_aM_lraI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Does this count as legs? Seems WSU was premature in denouncing any link to Salinas.


I guess I see a couple legs in that video.


Oops I had just clicked a link on BearNation I guess I hit copy instead. My bad. Link is fixed now.


I was wondering the heck you were getting at with that first link....thought it was some obscure inside joke
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Re: SI article from CNN

Postby Aargh » July 24th, 2011, 9:25 pm

oneNEIGHBOR wrote:Can you get in trouble for getting a donation? :huh: I sure hope this doesn't turn into anything.

The donations seem to be while Scott Thompson and Mark Turgeon were coaching at WSU. Both are mentioned as having lost money with Salinas.

The only player associated with Salinas to have played at WSU (at least that's known so far) is Murry, and that doesn't correspond with any of the donation from Salinas to WSU.

The contributions seem more likely to be an incentive for the coach to invest with a crook, rather than any attempt to influence recruiting. I don't believe the NCAA has any rules against influence peddling. It seems there would have to be a money trail tracked all the way to a player or recruit before there would be a problem with the NCAA.

With the number of times these situations arise, I would hope the NCAA makes a rule that athletic departments cannot accept donations from anyone associated with an AAU team and cannot funnel money (even laundered money) to any person sponsoring or coaching an AAU team.

Even better, eliminate the July evaluation period. A lot of coaches are asking for that already. Get rid of the AAU summer leagues. Let the kids be kids over the summer. That would remove a lot of corruption (and appearance of corruption) from the recruiting process.
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Re: SI article from CNN

Postby dgreenwell3 » July 24th, 2011, 10:11 pm

Aargh wrote:
oneNEIGHBOR wrote:Can you get in trouble for getting a donation? :huh: I sure hope this doesn't turn into anything.

The donations seem to be while Scott Thompson and Mark Turgeon were coaching at WSU. Both are mentioned as having lost money with Salinas.

The only player associated with Salinas to have played at WSU (at least that's known so far) is Murry, and that doesn't correspond with any of the donation from Salinas to WSU.

The contributions seem more likely to be an incentive for the coach to invest with a crook, rather than any attempt to influence recruiting. I don't believe the NCAA has any rules against influence peddling. It seems there would have to be a money trail tracked all the way to a player or recruit before there would be a problem with the NCAA.

With the number of times these situations arise, I would hope the NCAA makes a rule that athletic departments cannot accept donations from anyone associated with an AAU team and cannot funnel money (even laundered money) to any person sponsoring or coaching an AAU team.

Even better, eliminate the July evaluation period. A lot of coaches are asking for that already. Get rid of the AAU summer leagues. Let the kids be kids over the summer. That would remove a lot of corruption (and appearance of corruption) from the recruiting process.

I am a little more worried about the way some alumni cheat the system at universities than AAU...there are a few bad apples but that's true about any sort of system.
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Re: SI article from CNN

Postby Sycamore_DevilDog » July 25th, 2011, 7:42 am

I agree with aargh……..either cleanup the AAU programs or totally eliminate them. To believe there isn't abuse and cheating being orchestrated is simply naive. Just as in loopholes in the tax code and those utilizing them, the same exists in AAU.
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Re: SI article from CNN

Postby jayball » July 26th, 2011, 3:02 pm

Looks like Jank lost about $185K with Salinas

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/pablo_torre/07/26/Salinas.investment.scandal/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a7&eref=sihp

Doesn't look great combined with this....

A native of Houston, Oguchi announced in the spring his intention to transfer and got his release from Oregon. The coach of his Houston Select AAU team, David Salinas, is good friends with first-year ISU coach Tim Jankovich, who has coached and heavily recruited in Texas.

Thanks to that connection, Oguchi visited ISU in the spring. Oguchi wasn't concerned about joining a new coach after watching the up-tempo style used by Kansas, where Jankovich was Bill Self's right-hand man the last four years.

Read more: http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/articl ... z1TFLtXQTE
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