Creighton at Drake

[PantherSigEp]

For anyone saying that this is bad for the conference, this probably adds another year to Coach Phelps time in the MVC. That is absolutely a good thing for anyone outside of Des Moines. It hurts for now but unless the Jays go straight down the toilet this does nothing more than bump them down the seeding rung a little bit.

[rjl]

Word on the Creighton boards is that this the 2nd game in a row they've been royally screwed by the officiating. Huh???

If one of the routine Bluejay posters ever comes back here, can we get an explanation?


Maybe the Creighton boards wouldn't be going into thermonuclear meltdown mode if a majority of their fans weren't predicting 18-0 seasons. A lot of em are clamoring for the C7 so they can avoid losses like these. Better idea: Win the games in the first place.

I just glanced over there and I see mostly reasonable discussion going on. I think things said on a message board the night of a loss are things said in the heat of passion and can't really be used to show that an entire fanbase feels a certain way.

But, that said, certain Bluejay posters do the same to WSU (DJA), so what comes around, goes around.

[rlh04d]

Word on the Creighton boards is that this the 2nd game in a row they've been royally screwed by the officiating. Huh???

If one of the routine Bluejay posters ever comes back here, can we get an explanation?


Maybe the Creighton boards wouldn't be going into thermonuclear meltdown mode if a majority of their fans weren't predicting 18-0 seasons. A lot of em are clamoring for the C7 so they can avoid losses like these. Better idea: Win the games in the first place.

I swear I remember hearing that only WSU fans blame referees. Surely you're incorrect ... were you looking at ShockerNet? I have it on excellent authority that no one who cheers for an illustrious and prestigious university such as Creighton would ever stoop so low as to pathetically blame referees for their team's failures.

I'm so confused. What a topsy turvy world we live in.

I wish Creighton would have won that game, as Drake obviously has no shot at the tournament, and so can't contribute much in the postseason. But I won't be shedding too many tears.

But, that said, certain Bluejay posters do the same to WSU (DJA), so what comes around, goes around.

Don't bring rational, intelligent arguments into this. Those certainly never stopped certain Creighton fans on here in the past.

[shoxrox]

But, that said, certain Bluejay posters do the same to WSU (DJA), so what comes around, goes around.

That's one of the reasons why I brought it up.

[horacepinker]

I wonder what Jays26 and DeanthonyBowden have to say about this loss? Too bad one is MIA and the other is sailing to the south of France on his yacht.

[WestOmahaBluejay]

Well I am hoping that at the end of the season this game can be looked back as just one of those nights where Creighton just had a little stumble along the way, and that its not a sign of bigger issues. I think the depth issues with the loss of Josh Jones is starting to rear its head a little bit with this team (this isn't an excuse for CU's two straight losses of course, but definitely a contributing factor - and every team has to go through it during a point through the season). Especially with Ethan Wragge appearing to being entering into his usual mid-season shooting slump, CU is lacking a real go-to-guy off the bench. This is an issue that Greg McDermott needs to shore up for the Jays to have any chance to get back on top of the Valley and make any type of run in the tournament in March - players like Nevin Johnson, Dingman and Artino need to step it up, and fast (also something to note is the lack of playing time for Andre Yates - don't know what happened there).

I guess one good thing is that this 2 game skid has certainly tempered the fan-bases' expectations, which is a good thing especially with all the talk before the WSU game of an "undefeated conference season" and the like. The Valley regular season title is definitely still within reach, the Jays just need to get it back together and take care of business like they were before the loss in Wichita. The Valley certainly isn't one of the stronger conferences in the country top to bottom, but still on any given night - a perceived "Thursday night team" can still bring their A game and knock off one of the teams at the top - its the fun of college basketball - whether its good or not for the conference can be debated on Selection Sunday (and even then, the team that put itself in that "bubble" position only needs to look into the mirror and blame itself).

[rjl]

Well I am hoping that at the end of the season this game can be looked back as just one of those nights where Creighton just had a little stumble along the way, and that its not a sign of bigger issues. I think the depth issues with the loss of Josh Jones is starting to rear its head a little bit with this team (this isn't an excuse for CU's two straight losses of course, but definitely a contributing factor - and every team has to go through it during a point through the season). Especially with Ethan Wragge appearing to being entering into his usual mid-season shooting slump, CU is lacking a real go-to-guy off the bench. This is an issue that Greg McDermott needs to shore up for the Jays to have any chance to get back on top of the Valley and make any type of run in the tournament in March - players like Nevin Johnson, Dingman and Artino need to step it up, and fast (also something to note is the lack of playing time for Andre Yates - don't know what happened there).

I guess one good thing is that this 2 game skid has certainly tempered the fan-bases' expectations, which is a good thing especially with all the talk before the WSU game of an "undefeated conference season" and the like. The Valley regular season title is definitely still within reach, the Jays just need to get it back together and take care of business like they were before the loss in Wichita. The Valley certainly isn't one of the stronger conferences in the country top to bottom, but still on any given night - a perceived "Thursday night team" can still bring their A game and knock off one of the teams at the top - its the fun of college basketball - whether its good or not for the conference can be debated on Selection Sunday (and even then, the team that put itself in that "bubble" position only needs to look into the mirror and blame itself).

Whenever I call Bluejay fans a bunch of morons, I am definitely not talking about people like you, WOBJ. It's rare to see this reasoned analysis from a fan of a team--any team--who just got upset in a major way the previous night.

Kudos to you, and good luck to you the rest of the season (except March 2 and possibly the 10th). I will continue to wish bad luck to other Creighton posters, however, so it's probably a wash.

[WestOmahaBluejay]

Well I am hoping that at the end of the season this game can be looked back as just one of those nights where Creighton just had a little stumble along the way, and that its not a sign of bigger issues. I think the depth issues with the loss of Josh Jones is starting to rear its head a little bit with this team (this isn't an excuse for CU's two straight losses of course, but definitely a contributing factor - and every team has to go through it during a point through the season). Especially with Ethan Wragge appearing to being entering into his usual mid-season shooting slump, CU is lacking a real go-to-guy off the bench. This is an issue that Greg McDermott needs to shore up for the Jays to have any chance to get back on top of the Valley and make any type of run in the tournament in March - players like Nevin Johnson, Dingman and Artino need to step it up, and fast (also something to note is the lack of playing time for Andre Yates - don't know what happened there).

I guess one good thing is that this 2 game skid has certainly tempered the fan-bases' expectations, which is a good thing especially with all the talk before the WSU game of an "undefeated conference season" and the like. The Valley regular season title is definitely still within reach, the Jays just need to get it back together and take care of business like they were before the loss in Wichita. The Valley certainly isn't one of the stronger conferences in the country top to bottom, but still on any given night - a perceived "Thursday night team" can still bring their A game and knock off one of the teams at the top - its the fun of college basketball - whether its good or not for the conference can be debated on Selection Sunday (and even then, the team that put itself in that "bubble" position only needs to look into the mirror and blame itself).

Whenever I call Bluejay fans a bunch of morons, I am definitely not talking about people like you, WOBJ. It's rare to see this reasoned analysis from a fan of a team--any team--who just got upset in a major way the previous night.

Kudos to you, and good luck to you the rest of the season (except March 2 and possibly the 10th). I will continue to wish bad luck to other Creighton posters, however, so it's probably a wash.

Thanks rjl, I feel the same way about the fans of other fan bases (including WSU) - many fans just need to step away from the ledge and realize that its 18-22 year old college kids out there playing, and even the better teams fall from time to time (i.e. Duke last night against Miami LOL).

And here's hoping that the game on March 2nd is for all the marbles (regular season title-wise)... No matter what happens here on out - I am certainly looking forward to that Saturday !

[GarH]

Just a hunch, but I don't think Creighton will go undefeated in the Valley this year.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Well I am hoping that at the end of the season this game can be looked back as just one of those nights where Creighton just had a little stumble along the way, and that its not a sign of bigger issues. I think the depth issues with the loss of Josh Jones is starting to rear its head a little bit with this team (this isn't an excuse for CU's two straight losses of course, but definitely a contributing factor - and every team has to go through it during a point through the season). Especially with Ethan Wragge appearing to being entering into his usual mid-season shooting slump, CU is lacking a real go-to-guy off the bench. This is an issue that Greg McDermott needs to shore up for the Jays to have any chance to get back on top of the Valley and make any type of run in the tournament in March - players like Nevin Johnson, Dingman and Artino need to step it up, and fast (also something to note is the lack of playing time for Andre Yates - don't know what happened there).

I guess one good thing is that this 2 game skid has certainly tempered the fan-bases' expectations, which is a good thing especially with all the talk before the WSU game of an "undefeated conference season" and the like. The Valley regular season title is definitely still within reach, the Jays just need to get it back together and take care of business like they were before the loss in Wichita. The Valley certainly isn't one of the stronger conferences in the country top to bottom, but still on any given night - a perceived "Thursday night team" can still bring their A game and knock off one of the teams at the top - its the fun of college basketball - whether its good or not for the conference can be debated on Selection Sunday (and even then, the team that put itself in that "bubble" position only needs to look into the mirror and blame itself).

It is difficult to play with only seven players. Starters + Wragge + Dingman. Yes, I am aware of Artino.

When foul trouble arises, trouble ensues.
With only seven players, fatigue ensues. Then tired shots and reduced defensive effort follows.

Did I run off into the ditch with these comments?