Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby spoon » March 10th, 2019, 3:19 pm

Bradley has been on the other side of those flagrant calls at least 2-3 times this season. It was very fortunate that this was the time for them to finally benefit from the rule book.
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby freddycat68 » March 10th, 2019, 3:25 pm

Last night it's Drake fans acting they're a nationally ranked powerhouse entitled to represent the conference. Today it's UNI fans bellyaching about a call by the officials. Is there something in the water there in Iowa? Here's a newsflash: in college basketball, when you put yourselves in a position to lose, bad things can happen; and when you put yourselves in position to win, good things can happen. You don't want an official's call to cost you the game? Fine: put your foot on your opponent's neck and don't let them up. If you can't do that, or if your opponent won't let you do that, then you live with the results.

Congrats to the Bradley Braves.
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby MNPanthers » March 10th, 2019, 3:49 pm

freddycat68 wrote:Last night it's Drake fans acting they're a nationally ranked powerhouse entitled to represent the conference. Today it's UNI fans bellyaching about a call by the officials. Is there something in the water there in Iowa? Here's a newsflash: in college basketball, when you put yourselves in a position to lose, bad things can happen; and when you put yourselves in position to win, good things can happen. You don't want an official's call to cost you the game? Fine: put your foot on your opponent's neck and don't let them up. If you can't do that, or if your opponent won't let you do that, then you live with the results.

Congrats to the Bradley Braves.


Seeing multiple people from multiple fanbases agreeing on this one. It was a huge call that completely changed the final 2 minutes. You go from down 1 to up 3 and get the ball.I Don't even think it's possible to argue that didn't change the game.

UNI is young, we all new the comeback was gonna happen, I was saying it all game. You expect the refs to call it fair in that critical stretch regardless of the fact that UNI blew the lead. That didnt happen
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby ptownbraves » March 10th, 2019, 4:03 pm

freddycat68 wrote:Last night it's Drake fans acting they're a nationally ranked powerhouse entitled to represent the conference. Today it's UNI fans bellyaching about a call by the officials. Is there something in the water there in Iowa? Here's a newsflash: in college basketball, when you put yourselves in a position to lose, bad things can happen; and when you put yourselves in position to win, good things can happen. You don't want an official's call to cost you the game? Fine: put your foot on your opponent's neck and don't let them up. If you can't do that, or if your opponent won't let you do that, then you live with the results.

Congrats to the Bradley Braves.

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I thought the refs were overall outstanding and one questionable call doesn't change the fact that UNI gave up 42 second half points and an 18 point lead. UNI took their foot off the gas and let Bradley back in it. That's the real story.
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby Drakey » March 10th, 2019, 4:17 pm

I watched that replay a number of times and did not see that the refs had any choice but to call the flagrant foul. He hit him in the face with both hands. Last night when he elbowed Murphy in the face, the ref standing five feet away didn't call anything. As result UNI got the ball and scored. After Devries asked for a review, the other refs looked at the monitor and called the obvious flagrant foul, but UNI still ended up with a possession and basket they should not have had. UNI got luck one night and not the next.
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby bleach » March 10th, 2019, 5:40 pm

I agree that I hate the flagrant rules but the call was correct. Really massive call at that time. Bradley is probably a better representative for the conference record wise and physically.
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby tribecalledquest » March 10th, 2019, 5:41 pm

MNPanthers wrote:
freddycat68 wrote:Last night it's Drake fans acting they're a nationally ranked powerhouse entitled to represent the conference. Today it's UNI fans bellyaching about a call by the officials. Is there something in the water there in Iowa? Here's a newsflash: in college basketball, when you put yourselves in a position to lose, bad things can happen; and when you put yourselves in position to win, good things can happen. You don't want an official's call to cost you the game? Fine: put your foot on your opponent's neck and don't let them up. If you can't do that, or if your opponent won't let you do that, then you live with the results.

Congrats to the Bradley Braves.


Seeing multiple people from multiple fanbases agreeing on this one. It was a huge call that completely changed the final 2 minutes. You go from down 1 to up 3 and get the ball.I Don't even think it's possible to argue that didn't change the game.

UNI is young, we all new the comeback was gonna happen, I was saying it all game. You expect the refs to call it fair in that critical stretch regardless of the fact that UNI blew the lead. That didnt happen


A call can completely change a game and also be the correct call. Both things can be true.
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby DrakeFanInSt.Louis » March 10th, 2019, 6:33 pm

I understand why the UNI fan turnout was light...average year and long distance to StL. But I thought BU fans would show better. Ain’t Peoria the closest of all of the MVC schools to Enterprise Center? Easy day trip. 3,000 max. BU fans in the building today. Hope the fan base is more supportive of BU in the NCAA tournament.

In years past, the championship game usually featured Creighton or Wichita State bringing 7,500 fans and their opponents bringing 2,500. Then, add-in another 1,500 fans whose teams were beat but stayed for the whole tournament. These fans usually cheered for whomever was playing Creighton or Wichita State. Made for a vibrant, wild, and fun atmosphere.

Congratulations BU fans! Enjoy.
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby BCPanther » March 10th, 2019, 6:42 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
MNPanthers wrote:
freddycat68 wrote:Last night it's Drake fans acting they're a nationally ranked powerhouse entitled to represent the conference. Today it's UNI fans bellyaching about a call by the officials. Is there something in the water there in Iowa? Here's a newsflash: in college basketball, when you put yourselves in a position to lose, bad things can happen; and when you put yourselves in position to win, good things can happen. You don't want an official's call to cost you the game? Fine: put your foot on your opponent's neck and don't let them up. If you can't do that, or if your opponent won't let you do that, then you live with the results.

Congrats to the Bradley Braves.


Seeing multiple people from multiple fanbases agreeing on this one. It was a huge call that completely changed the final 2 minutes. You go from down 1 to up 3 and get the ball.I Don't even think it's possible to argue that didn't change the game.

UNI is young, we all new the comeback was gonna happen, I was saying it all game. You expect the refs to call it fair in that critical stretch regardless of the fact that UNI blew the lead. That didnt happen


A call can completely change a game and also be the correct call. Both things can be true.


Exactly this. By rule, the call is 100% correct. 100%.

Hate the rule all you want, and I really do right now, but it was applied correctly as written. That contact is looked at in a vacuum. Did McDonnell make contact above the shoulders after the dead ball whistle? Yes. By rule, it doesn't matter how it happened or why it happened. It's a dead ball contact technical.

It's the unintended consequence of going to the monitor for everything. We're so obsessed with 'getting things right' that we have to live in this world of technicalities and no common sense.
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Re: Arch Madness Championship - UNI (6) vs Bradley (5)

Postby Valleyball » March 10th, 2019, 6:44 pm

DrakeFanInSt.Louis wrote: Ain’t Peoria the closest of all of the MVC schools to Enterprise Center? >


No, I know Ill state and SIU are closer. I would think Mo State is closer. But, Bradley has lost a lot of fan support the last 15 years. Hopefully this will help with bringing them back. Especially if they can follow up with a good year next season.
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