Loyola Coaching Search

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Who should Loyola hire?

Poll ended at April 21st, 2019, 11:53 pm

Tim Cluess, Iona
6
21%
Ryan Odom, Maryland-Baltimore County
0
No votes
Luke Yaklich, Michigan
6
21%
Dane Fife, Michigan St
1
4%
Mike Davis, Detroit Mercy
2
7%
Jon Scheyer, Glenbrook North
1
4%
Bryce Drew, Homer’s Basement
1
4%
Barry Hinson, Oklahoma Governor’s Mansion
8
29%
Other
3
11%
 
Total votes : 28

Re: Loyola Coaching Search

Postby goramblers2011 » April 17th, 2019, 8:47 am

A few more years of Creighton missing the tourney and that gig may open up. Porter would 100% take that, if offered.

But the Bluejays should be pretty solid next year.
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Postby ACECARD » April 17th, 2019, 9:30 am

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Rambler63 wrote:I also think a lot of people around the league don't recognize that Chicago is a pretty good place to live, work and go to school.


Impossible. The Cubs play in Chicago. :Cheers:

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Re: Loyola Coaching Search

Postby Jsnhbe1Birds » April 17th, 2019, 9:55 am

I 100% think Leitao will fail this time around and Porter will be the next coach of DePaul. Watch out for that one. Big East. Better competition. Able to recruit better players. Able to recruit even better from Chicago. New stadium. Lincoln Park campus. Double the pay. Doesn't have to move anywhere. The suburbs are his hometown. He seems to love it there. I'd put money on it. He'll be at Loyola for another 2/3 years.
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Re: Loyola Coaching Search

Postby Mikovio » April 17th, 2019, 11:53 am

At this point we I think we have to assume Dave Leitao has compromising pictures of AD Ponsetto, who in turn has compromising pictures of the DePaul president.
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Postby ExpansionGRAD1314 » April 17th, 2019, 5:50 pm

AD is an east coast guy so he probably heads there for the next coach. We'll never find out now.
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Re: Loyola Coaching Search

Postby E-Villan » April 17th, 2019, 6:53 pm

Jsnhbe1Birds wrote:I 100% think Leitao will fail this time around and Porter will be the next coach of DePaul. Watch out for that one. Big East. Better competition. Able to recruit better players. Able to recruit even better from Chicago. New stadium. Lincoln Park campus. Double the pay. Doesn't have to move anywhere. The suburbs are his hometown. He seems to love it there. I'd put money on it. He'll be at Loyola for another 2/3 years.


I am not disagreeing Leitao will eventually fail, as has everyone at DePaul not named Ray Meyer...but there is no way Porter will leave Loyola for DePaul.

First off, Loyola would not allow it. You do realize the Loyola endowment is over $150mm larger than DePauls? They also have a few more students. DePaul had a Final Four 40 years ago, and they have squeezed every bit out of that they can. Loyola has had 2 Final Four, one just a year ago, along with a National Championship. In many opinions, Loyola can now lay claim to the top program in Chicago. I would also say Loyola is more relevant nationally, which should give them an advantage in recruiting. Yes, I get somehow DePaul is in the Big East, but they are the doormat, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. He just turned down a Big East gig, so that isn't such a big deal.

There may be a Big East job that could come along and lure him away, but it won't be DePaul.
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Re: Loyola Coaching Search

Postby BEARZ77 » April 17th, 2019, 8:05 pm

The difference is in most years if you're the 4th best team in the Big East , you go to the Big Dance; if you're the 4th best team in the Valley, you go to the CIT. Beyond the $$$ in your contract, the biggest motivator for the vast majority of coaches is access to the Big Dance. DePaul can be less than Loyola in lots of ways, but as long as it has better access to the NCAA Tourney, it will be more attractive. If Porter thinks he can recruit similar talent to both places , then it's a no brainer.
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Re: Loyola Coaching Search

Postby Sir Sci » April 18th, 2019, 7:26 am

BEARZ77 wrote:The difference is in most years if you're the 4th best team in the Big East , you go to the Big Dance; if you're the 4th best team in the Valley, you go to the CIT. Beyond the $$$ in your contract, the biggest motivator for the vast majority of coaches is access to the Big Dance. DePaul can be less than Loyola in lots of ways, but as long as it has better access to the NCAA Tourney, it will be more attractive. If Porter thinks he can recruit similar talent to both places , then it's a no brainer.


Except DePaul has never been the fourth best team in the Big East, and there's no reason to think they are the kind of program that is capable of getting to that point.

The issue here isn't the Big East v The Valley in terms of ability to get into the dance. The issue is that DePaul is the wrong Big East program to coach if you want to make the dance.
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Re: Loyola Coaching Search

Postby BEARZ77 » April 18th, 2019, 8:17 am

But that is what a coach is for; any good coach is going to believe that if he has adequate resources he can do that. What was Loyola for x number of years before Porter, what was Wichita for over a decade before Turgeon then Marshall. As a coach I've got to believe if I have decent facilities and resources I can win. Look at MSU and Counzo, we haven't danced in 20 years, he did not have any problem winning here, but he still didn't make the dance so he bolted. At least with the schedule and the conference DePaul can expect to dance if they win. DePaul is bad because they've made bad hires , not because they have inadequate resources.
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Re: Loyola Coaching Search

Postby Khan4Cats » April 18th, 2019, 8:21 am

Sir Sci wrote:
BEARZ77 wrote:The difference is in most years if you're the 4th best team in the Big East , you go to the Big Dance; if you're the 4th best team in the Valley, you go to the CIT. Beyond the $$$ in your contract, the biggest motivator for the vast majority of coaches is access to the Big Dance. DePaul can be less than Loyola in lots of ways, but as long as it has better access to the NCAA Tourney, it will be more attractive. If Porter thinks he can recruit similar talent to both places , then it's a no brainer.


Except DePaul has never been the fourth best team in the Big East, and there's no reason to think they are the kind of program that is capable of getting to that point.

The issue here isn't the Big East v The Valley in terms of ability to get into the dance. The issue is that DePaul is the wrong Big East program to coach if you want to make the dance.


In the 26 years prior to joining the Valley, Loyola had 4 winning seasons. There was no reason to think that Loyola would be capable of getting to the point of even being competitive in the Valley and many on here (not just WSU fans) were outraged by their addition. They have had 4 winning seasons in the 6 that they have been a part of the Valley. Go figure.
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