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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby Blers » September 19th, 2019, 3:49 pm

BEARZ77 wrote:I think it's always interesting how different people see things or interpret them. Indiana State has had excellent backcourt talent for a number of years now, but went 20-34 in the Valley the last 3 years. A year here or there can be an anomaly, but 3 years is a definite trend. The backcourt talent remains, the frontcourt is very young, so you ask, what will be different. It's a coach and guard league so things are squarely on Lansing's shoulders to prove different or be gone I'd suspect.

As far as Loyola, there's a difference between inexperienced and unreliable. They have the starting pg from the juco national championship team [Cleamons] and the initially top rated freshman recruit in the MVC
[ Kennedy]. I think they can cover the minutes at the pg, and they have some options at the 2/3 positions to add to Williamson.

The loss of Kaifes hurts, but it's not a year killer. But just as last year, the difference between 12-8 and 8-12 could possibly hold about 4-6 teams.


Losing Kaifes hurt my soul. I could watch that kid shoot all day; and honestly going into this year he was probably number 3 on my most important players for this team. I still see this year as a bridge year for next season where we should be really well set. But assuming they learn the offense and can hit the open shots they missed last season, top 5 should be well within reach. I'm still not ready to call them the favorite til i see them play though. Just so many new pieces.

Next year though... we only lose Skokna but add Kaifes (46.5% from 3) and point guard Braden Norris (48.6% from 3 at Oakland), both coming into their sophomore seasons; along with Baylor Hebb.
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Postby Drakey » September 19th, 2019, 8:31 pm

tribecalledquest wrote:
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Drake fans are the leaders in the clubhouse for the "our guys get worse the minute they leave campus" award.


What does that mean?


It's the classic college sports fan reaction. Guys were awesome when they were on the team. Then they graduate and move on and all of their flaws are discussed and their one time importance to the team success decreases and the replacement is just as good, or better.


Can't recall any Drake fan ever saying anything along those lines. In fact I can't recall any Drake fan blowing about how good any player is at any time, not that they have had much chance to.
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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby hot nuts » September 20th, 2019, 8:28 am

This Drake fan versus Bradley fan bickering takes me back to the good old days when you could count on a BU/DU grudge match on Thursday night in Saint Louis. Those days seem long gone now.
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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby BuBrave2006 » September 20th, 2019, 8:32 am

hot nuts wrote:This Drake fan versus Bradley fan bickering takes me back to the good old days when you could count on a BU/DU grudge match on Thursday night in Saint Louis. Those days seem long gone now.


Someone with more free time than me should go through and compile a list of how many times each team has played on Thursday under the current format.
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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby BCPanther » September 20th, 2019, 9:21 am

BuBrave2006 wrote:
hot nuts wrote:This Drake fan versus Bradley fan bickering takes me back to the good old days when you could count on a BU/DU grudge match on Thursday night in Saint Louis. Those days seem long gone now.


Someone with more free time than me should go through and compile a list of how many times each team has played on Thursday under the current format.


23 years in current format (started in 1997)

Drake has played in Opening Round 18 Times
Bradley has played in Opening Round 11 Times

They've played each other in Opening Round 6 times (Bradley is 4-2) (Played in Opening Round 4 times in 5 years- 2011, 2012, 2013, 2015)

Only 2 times have neither one of them played in the Opening Round: 2008 and 2017 (They played each other in the 4/5 Game in 2017)
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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby Tom Servo » September 20th, 2019, 9:38 am

Here's Evansville's Thursday history:

In 8 Crews Seasons UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2002
In 5 Merfeld Seasons UE played in 4 Thursday games - 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
In 11 Simmons Seasons UE played in 5 Thursday games - 2008, 2010, 2014, 2017, 2018
In 1 McCarty Season UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2019

11 Thursday appearances for UE - ie way too many - the stretch from 2002 - 2010 was probably one of the worst stretches of basketball any fan could ever endure.
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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby BigMacAttack » September 20th, 2019, 10:08 am

Tom Servo wrote:Here's Evansville's Thursday history:

In 8 Crews Seasons UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2002
In 5 Merfeld Seasons UE played in 4 Thursday games - 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
In 11 Simmons Seasons UE played in 5 Thursday games - 2008, 2010, 2014, 2017, 2018
In 1 McCarty Season UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2019

11 Thursday appearances for UE - ie way too many - the stretch from 2002 - 2010 was probably one of the worst stretches of basketball any fan could ever endure.

I feel the 3 year Thursday night stretch will end this season.
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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby ACECARD » September 20th, 2019, 10:27 am

BigMacAttack wrote:
Tom Servo wrote:Here's Evansville's Thursday history:

In 8 Crews Seasons UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2002
In 5 Merfeld Seasons UE played in 4 Thursday games - 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
In 11 Simmons Seasons UE played in 5 Thursday games - 2008, 2010, 2014, 2017, 2018
In 1 McCarty Season UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2019

11 Thursday appearances for UE - ie way too many - the stretch from 2002 - 2010 was probably one of the worst stretches of basketball any fan could ever endure.

I feel the 3 year Thursday night stretch will end this season.

If the Aces are a Thursday team this year, it will be the most devastating season of them all. Sam Cunliff, and DeAndre Williams are two of the best players they have had in the last 20 years.
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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby tribecalledquest » September 20th, 2019, 10:42 am

BigMacAttack wrote:
Tom Servo wrote:Here's Evansville's Thursday history:

In 8 Crews Seasons UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2002
In 5 Merfeld Seasons UE played in 4 Thursday games - 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
In 11 Simmons Seasons UE played in 5 Thursday games - 2008, 2010, 2014, 2017, 2018
In 1 McCarty Season UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2019

11 Thursday appearances for UE - ie way too many - the stretch from 2002 - 2010 was probably one of the worst stretches of basketball any fan could ever endure.

I feel the 3 year Thursday night stretch will end this season.


It won't. I can't think of four teams who are worse than the Aces right now.
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Re: MVC preseason media day /polls

Postby Tom Servo » September 20th, 2019, 11:03 am

tribecalledquest wrote:
BigMacAttack wrote:
Tom Servo wrote:Here's Evansville's Thursday history:

In 8 Crews Seasons UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2002
In 5 Merfeld Seasons UE played in 4 Thursday games - 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
In 11 Simmons Seasons UE played in 5 Thursday games - 2008, 2010, 2014, 2017, 2018
In 1 McCarty Season UE played in 1 Thursday game - 2019

11 Thursday appearances for UE - ie way too many - the stretch from 2002 - 2010 was probably one of the worst stretches of basketball any fan could ever endure.

I feel the 3 year Thursday night stretch will end this season.


It won't. I can't think of four teams who are worse than the Aces right now.


You might be right, it's impossible to know anything until the season begins. With as many new guys as Evansville will have no one really knows for sure how any of it will play out. Especially with all the other turnover in the league. However, I will say it's not everyday you land players with the skill level of Cunliffe and Williams. Freshman will be freshman - I wouldn't count on too much there other than normal freshman play, but those two guys are going to make a big difference.

The only reason I say this is I've heard how good they are from multiple people who are usually pretty pessimistic about everything related to UE and the players. But I certainly understand your point of view on it. I would expect the Aces to be picked in the bottom part of the conference in the preseason for the same reason.

It's pretty similar to Jim Crews 2nd season in 1986-87 - had a terrible team his first year with Scott Haffner And Marty Simmons sitting out. They played in 87 and they won the league. I'm not saying that will happen, but the talent uptick is going to be that dramatic. How far they go up in the standings will depend on how much everyone else improves and how good the rest of the league is.
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