MVC Week 3 Discussion

[uniguy]

Has anyone noticed that the ESPN App on Roku lists Radford’s games in the MVC?

[Majik45]

AJ is a great shooter, but I don't think he's so elite that he's going to be sniffing NBA $$$ as a junior and tempted to leave early. Just my opinion. Really excited about the young talent we have in the MVC this year. The next few years will be fun.

Agree on this one, he's not good enough to get drafted early, but I could see him sticking around and having a long NBA career, as he is really good at one thing, shooting it from long Distance. Korver has made a long career off his shooting ability.

[Majik45]

The swings in the Bradley MSU game were crazy last night. Bradley builds a 16 point lead late in the first half. MSU then goes on a run to take a 10 point lead (26 point swing). Bradley then gets hot from 3 again late in the game and wins by 13 (23 point swing).

Bradley finished the game 17 of 30 from 3 point land, set a record for the most 3's they've ever made in an MVC game.

[BCPanther]

Valpo is one ballhandler and an offseason for Krikke to put some weight on from being a top half team.

I've been as critical as anyone about them since they were added but last night was as hard as I've seen them play for Lottich. If he can get that consistent effort from them they've got a chance to sneak out of Thursday.

[tribecalledquest]

AJ is a great shooter, but I don't think he's so elite that he's going to be sniffing NBA $$$ as a junior and tempted to leave early. Just my opinion. Really excited about the young talent we have in the MVC this year. The next few years will be fun.

AJ is a great scorer and very good shooter but not an elite shooter. And certainly not for the NBA level. That isn't a knock on him.

[goramblers2011]

Valpo is one ballhandler and an offseason for Krikke to put some weight on from being a top half team.

I've been as critical as anyone about them since they were added but last night was as hard as I've seen them play for Lottich. If he can get that consistent effort from them they've got a chance to sneak out of Thursday.

The battle to stay out of Thursday will be interesting. Evansville is a Thursday lock. I think ISUr and SIU are most likely (although SIU has the defensive toughness and ISUr has a win over UNI...). Can Valpo edge out preseason favorite MSU to stay in the top 6? Think UNI/Bradley/Loyola are 'safe' (hope I don't regret saying that). Then I think ISUb and Drake are next. But after that...

[BCPanther]

Valpo is one ballhandler and an offseason for Krikke to put some weight on from being a top half team.

I've been as critical as anyone about them since they were added but last night was as hard as I've seen them play for Lottich. If he can get that consistent effort from them they've got a chance to sneak out of Thursday.

The battle to stay out of Thursday will be interesting. Evansville is a Thursday lock. I think ISUr and SIU are most likely (although SIU has the defensive toughness and ISUr has a win over UNI...). Can Valpo edge out preseason favorite MSU to stay in the top 6? Think UNI/Bradley/Loyola are 'safe' (hope I don't regret saying that). Then I think ISUb and Drake are next. But after that...

I think you're spot on that the 6/7 line comes down to Valpo and Missouri State. SIU's talent shortcomings and depth are going to push them down, Illinois State has played one AMAZING half and other than that been pretty pedestrian. The only saving grace this year is that the 7 seed basically gets a bye on Thursday night.

[Blers]

I gotta think as of now MSU is 7th and Valpo is safe. Give me the team consistently over achieving rather than the team consistently under achieving.

I was high on Valpo this year, they've got a lot of fun pieces and I agree they just need a solid point and probably a better big man to put it all together. Clay was a great find.

Looking ahead though, the top half is gonna be tough next year…

-Loyola loses literally no one that plays significant minutes and will have 6 seniors (lose Skokna, add Kaifes, Norris, and Hebb)

-Drake also returns almost everyone (and add their redshirt freshman)

-Indiana State loses Barnes and Williams, but keeps Key, Neese, and their freshman bigs

-Valpo loses Kiser and probably Fazekas (unless he redshirts…not sure if that’s a possibility)

-UNI loses Brown, Haldeman, and Dahl, but retains Green, Berhlow, and Phyfe their three leading scorers.

-Bradley probably loses the most in terms of quality with Brown, Kennel, and Bar… but Childs, Henry, and
Nolan is still a real solid core.

-MSU loses Cook, DaSilva, and West are big losses on paper, but given their years so far… hard to say if fans feel that’s a big loss

-SIU and ISUr are a year older; SIU will certainly improve, and I like ISU’s young talent.

-Evansville… well. All I can say is I’m sorry fans have had to deal with what they have. But if some of that talent can stay with a good coach... there's still some hope.

Weird question, but has there ever been less senior talent in recent years?

[tribecalledquest]

Weird question, but has there ever been less senior talent in recent years?

Good question. Right now is there a senior worthy of First Team All League consideration outside of Nate Kennell?

[Blers]

Weird question, but has there ever been less senior talent in recent years?

Good question. Right now is there a senior worthy of First Team All League consideration outside of Nate Kennell?

Right? And he's not even a lock at this point (though with the weight he's carrying with Childs out i think he's deserving). I went back and looked at the all freshman team from that 2017 (our current group of seniors) and this was the list...

Koch Bar
Darrell Brown
Jordan Barnes
Spencer Haldeman
Dru Smith (now playing great minutes at Mizzou)
Landry Shamet

Some nice top end talent for sure, but the depth/development across the board really wasn’t there…
The newcomer team meanwhile had some great players: Phil Fayne, Aundre Jackson, Alize Johnson, and Darral Willis Jr.