2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Saluki1990 » February 7th, 2020, 11:48 am

I actually don’t blame the players for Evansville woes. I think it’s kinda hard to play when your school hires a coach who goes around preying on women. I’d like to see Evansville win some games. Hell we beat you and our net went down. It’s good for the valley. Wasn’t trying to take a pot shot just saying I don’t expect them to win with all the off court issues.

Also we were never hyped probably because Hinson never seemed to have the ability to coach players to play their best/ win championships.
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Kyle@MOState » February 7th, 2020, 12:15 pm

Saluki1990 wrote:

Also we were never hyped probably because Hinson never seemed to have the ability to coach players to play their best/ win championships.


I thought he did pretty well with X's and O's, it was his recruiting that could sometime be questioned. Not saying that he never got good players, it was just hard for him to win too many battles.
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Saluki 4 Life » February 10th, 2020, 8:47 am

Wonder what the probability of MSU being in the play in will be now... Hard to imagine they would be Thursday team but who would have ever thought ILL ST would play Thursday last year. I know this, the 1/2 seed who gets to see MSU Friday can't be thrilled.
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby BCPanther » February 10th, 2020, 9:11 am

Saluki 4 Life wrote:Wonder what the probability of MSU being in the play in will be now... Hard to imagine they would be Thursday team but who would have ever thought ILL ST would play Thursday last year. I know this, the 1/2 seed who gets to see MSU Friday can't be thrilled.


UNI's won the last three against MSU by a combined 72 points. I think Jake would be pretty okay with it...
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Saluki 4 Life » February 10th, 2020, 9:22 am

BCPanther wrote:
Saluki 4 Life wrote:Wonder what the probability of MSU being in the play in will be now... Hard to imagine they would be Thursday team but who would have ever thought ILL ST would play Thursday last year. I know this, the 1/2 seed who gets to see MSU Friday can't be thrilled.


UNI's won the last three against MSU by a combined 72 points. I think Jake would be pretty okay with it...


We are not actually considering last years game between them meaningful to this year, right? My point was they are way too talented to be in the position they are which include the awful losses to UNI. To pretend that team doesn't have the ability to beat anyone any night is just naive.
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby BCPanther » February 10th, 2020, 9:40 am

Saluki 4 Life wrote:
BCPanther wrote:
Saluki 4 Life wrote:Wonder what the probability of MSU being in the play in will be now... Hard to imagine they would be Thursday team but who would have ever thought ILL ST would play Thursday last year. I know this, the 1/2 seed who gets to see MSU Friday can't be thrilled.


UNI's won the last three against MSU by a combined 72 points. I think Jake would be pretty okay with it...


We are not actually considering last years game between them meaningful to this year, right? My point was they are way too talented to be in the position they are which include the awful losses to UNI. To pretend that team doesn't have the ability to beat anyone any night is just naive.


Is two losses by a combined 52 points better?

There's a massive, gaping, black hole on the bench. Dana's bad. Real bad. He also has a team that, even from the outside, you can tell hates each other and doesn't play real hard most of the time.

We're at the point of the year where you are what your record is and for MSU that's an .500 team that hasn't put anything together on a consistent basis.
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Hacksaw » February 10th, 2020, 9:51 am

Only 1/3 of the conference season to go. A couple more of the simulations to go, then I'll break it down into the actual count of possible outcomes.
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby Hacksaw » February 10th, 2020, 9:52 am

And from a historical perspective, here is how Valley teams have ended up being seeded as well as how they performed in the tournament, with each respective record through 12 games:
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby MNPanthers » February 10th, 2020, 12:01 pm

Saluki 4 Life wrote:We are not actually considering last years game between them meaningful to this year, right? My point was they are way too talented to be in the position they are which include the awful losses to UNI. To pretend that team doesn't have the ability to beat anyone any night is just naive.


Whats naive here is assuming just cause they almost beat SIU they are all the sudden a dangerous team again. How many more times does MSU need to prove they are bad before we just call them what they are... bad. They are sub 500 and by far their best win was against NET 138 Murray State at home.

No I don't think they can beat any team any night. They haven't shown that ability even once this year.
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Re: 2020 Arch Madness Seeding Probabilities

Postby mvfcfan » February 10th, 2020, 1:01 pm

It's more than likely going to be
1 UNI
2/3 SIU OR LUC
4 BU
5/6 DU OR INST
7/8 VU OR MSU
9 ILST
10 UE

I think Bradley will end up winning the tournament. A healthy Bradley is going to be dangerous.
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