Odum for FOY

[sycamorestateofmind]

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... =jake-odum

Here even though it's going to be easy to tell the difference between the two - let's take the names away from the stats. Maybe that will allow you guys to take a closer look at this thing.


Player A: Stats on the entire season
6'4 PG (Frosh)

Min Per Game: 30
Points: 9
FG: 50%
FT: 74%
3Pt: 35% (18 for 52)
Rebounds: 4 (112)
Assists: 4 (119 total)
Steals: 2 (51 total)
Blocks: 8 total
Turnovers: 65 total


Player B: Stats on the entire season
6'7 Forward (Frosh)

Min Per Game: 30
Points: 15
FG: 51%
FT: 74%
3PT: 36% (30 for 84)
Rebounds: 8 (233 total)
Assists: 1 (33 total)
Steals: 0 (9 total)
Blocks: 3 Total
Turnovers: 67 total

Not sure what is so cut and dry about this? Player A is a PG in college basketball and he has averages 4 assists a game, obviously he handles the ball much more than Player B, yes? Well Player B for whatever reason actually has more turnovers (be it a slight margin) on the season even though Player A handles the ball much more.

Player A appears to be an above average defender, he averages 2 steals a game and has 51 total on the season. Player B only has 9 total steals all season - averaging 30 minutes a game you'd think you could luck into 9 steals on the season. Player B is also 3 inches taller than Player A and has proven his length in his fantastic rebounding ability, yet has 3 blocked shots on the season. From what I can tell Player B has proven to be a below average defender at best.

Player B has proven to be a fantastic scorer at 15 points a game compared to Player A at 9 points a game. It would appear based on the numbers that Player A is not asked to be a scorer for his team but can score if he has to. Both players shooting percentages are very similar across the board, Player B shoots slightly higher percentage from the 3pt line and has 12 more total makes than Player A on the season. Both players shooting about 50% from the field on the season is impressive.

Player A is Jake Odum and that's my FOY

[LJay]

Player B looks better to me.

Plus, Player B's conference stats are 15.5, 8.4, 42% 3 pt % so he has gotten substantially better as the season has progressed. He also plays on a team that wouldn't have won 10 games without him. Player B's D isn't below average, he's just too skinny at this point. By the time he's 20 he will have the bulk to bang.

A good defensive player has nothing to do with stats. Kenny Lawson was given defensive player accolades in the past because he had good blocked shot numbers. REALLY?! He was an awful defender who blocked shots on the off side. Player B has no blocked shots because that's not his role on the team. He plays with two shot blockers in Echineque and Lawson. He is specifically NOT supposed to go after blocking shots and instead go get boards.

Say what you want, Odum is good and will make the all-frosh team but FOY will be McDermott and it will be by a lot in the voting numbers.

[BirdmanBB]

Definitely player B.

I don't even think it's close. Hasn't McDermott pretty much secured about every newcomer of the week? One would think that racking up as many of those as he has would equate to NOY or FOY(as you put it).

[TylerDurden]

I like Odum, I really like him. He's been playing really well lately. I think he's really, really good and is a future POY candidate.

But McDermott is the FOY and it won't be that close. He's been far more consistent than Odum.

http://www.gocreighton.com/fls/1000/stats/m-basketball/1011/plyr_03.htm

http://www.gosycamores.com//pdf8/741090.pdf?SPSID=65155&SPID=7259&DB_OEM_ID=15200 Pg. 16

[SycamorePsycho]

Definitely player B.

I don't even think it's close. Hasn't McDermott pretty much secured about every newcomer of the week? One would think that racking up as many of those as he has would equate to NOY or FOY(as you put it).

Odum has "racked up" quite a few of his own chief....just fyi

[TylerDurden]

7>2

[FearDaTrees]

Odum won't win this award, but he deserves it. McD has a couple monsters around him in the paint to take away alot of the attention so of course he is gonna get his boards. CU's offense is based in large part around McD but Odum always has to create his shots. McDermott will win this award and you can book it....ODUM will finish second.

[Jays26]

7>2

You beat me to the punch......

That's not really close in my book.

[BirdmanBB]

Definitely player B.

I don't even think it's close. Hasn't McDermott pretty much secured about every newcomer of the week? One would think that racking up as many of those as he has would equate to NOY or FOY(as you put it).

Odum has "racked up" quite a few of his own chief....just fyi

A few would require more than a couple, which is all that Odum has "racked up." While McDermott has legitimately racked up 7 newcomers of the week. Like I said, I don't even think it's close. McDermott should be a lock. (side note: Rice also has 2) While I think players like Odum and Rice are going to be fantastic in this league, I just think McDermott has done more across the entire schedule to earn it.

[BirdmanBB]

wow that was fast.....I was looking it up on MVC-Sports.