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Re: Shocker fans

Postby LJay » March 6th, 2011, 3:38 pm

DoubleJayAlum wrote:
bleach wrote:IThe complete jerk response by CU fans towards the UNI interlude dance (truly incredible that ALL fans participate) made me and my wife embarrased for CU.


Anyone who was offended by that is just plain soft.

I know that actually attending the MVC tournament is kind of a new thing to UNI fans, and its been a while for MSU fans, but that was nothing compared to the past. Back when SIU and Creighton were competing for MVC tourney titles regularly, there was much more heat. If a student section or fanbase chanted something, the opposing side immediately responded with something creative and spontaneous of their own. It created an amazing environment and led to sell out crowds. The chants were much more intense and aggressive than mocking a bunch of white people flailing their arms. I remember "I H8 C8ton" tshirts and chants, "DUI" chants, etc. In 2007 after having the SIU students serenaded us with insults for a large part of the first half, the CU fanbase spontaneously broke into a "Why so Quiet?" chant when the SIU students went dead silent after falling behind. Did the SIU students pout about being harassed a bit? Nope, large portions of them were smiling and laughing.

UNI fans probably find their little dance thing cute. When you do it at home, nobody is ever going to do anything. When you do it on a neutral floor in a very intense lose and go home environment, it is going to come across as a sort of taunting. As a result, it will get some sort of a response. The fact that Creighton fans put together such a spontaneous response is a testament to their creativity. It always has historically at the tourney and it probably always will. Not that fans of schools that have just started going to the tourney have any understanding of that history....

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Grow some stones. You will get mocked next year in the Lou by the fan base of your opponent if you pull it out and do it again.
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Re: Shocker fans

Postby Deanthonybowdenfan » March 6th, 2011, 4:18 pm

Personally, I think we need this kind of thing in the league. I agree with the above poster referring to the CU/SIU rivalry. It was a heated rivalry-borderline hateful. Rude fans were expected. And it made the games more exciting and more competitive. Those were the best valley games there has ever been. As much as I and most creighton fans hated siu......i think i speak for us all when I say I had a lot of respect for em. This league needs heated rivalries for the fact that it makes for a more passionate league. Every good story needs a villain......i hope whichita or somebody will be that for our league. Just take the rudeness of fans a lil more lightly....have fun with it.....its just sports. Once NCAA tourney time comes round, All of us are rooting for the league anyways.....even if it is our rival out there.
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Re: Shocker fans

Postby GarH » March 6th, 2011, 5:24 pm

Sadly all teams have them.
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Re: Shocker fans

Postby Hersey Highway » March 6th, 2011, 8:28 pm

With 3000 WSU fans and 100 Indiana State fancs, that means there is 2900% more chance for a jerky Shocker fan than an Indiana State fan.

I saw and met nice fans from many schools. And I saw several jerks from several different schools including Indiana State and UNI.

Who really cares?

And yes, I think the face that WSU brings so many more fans does give them something to brag about. It is too bad for them the team performance hasn't lived up to the fans' support.
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Re: Shocker fans

Postby bleach » March 6th, 2011, 8:40 pm

DoubleJayAlum wrote:
bleach wrote:IThe complete jerk response by CU fans towards the UNI interlude dance (truly incredible that ALL fans participate) made me and my wife embarrased for CU.


Anyone who was offended by that is just plain soft.

I know that actually attending the MVC tournament is kind of a new thing to UNI fans, and its been a while for MSU fans, but that was nothing compared to the past. Back when SIU and Creighton were competing for MVC tourney titles regularly, there was much more heat. If a student section or fanbase chanted something, the opposing side immediately responded with something creative and spontaneous of their own. It created an amazing environment and led to sell out crowds. The chants were much more intense and aggressive than mocking a bunch of white people flailing their arms. I remember "I H8 C8ton" tshirts and chants, "DUI" chants, etc. In 2007 after having the SIU students serenaded us with insults for a large part of the first half, the CU fanbase spontaneously broke into a "Why so Quiet?" chant when the SIU students went dead silent after falling behind. Did the SIU students pout about being harassed a bit? Nope, large portions of them were smiling and laughing.

UNI fans probably find their little dance thing cute. When you do it at home, nobody is ever going to do anything. When you do it on a neutral floor in a very intense lose and go home environment, it is going to come across as a sort of taunting. As a result, it will get some sort of a response. The fact that Creighton fans put together such a spontaneous response is a testament to their creativity. It always has historically at the tourney and it probably always will. Not that fans of schools that have just started going to the tourney have any understanding of that history....


I've been there 20 of the last 21 years. Not exactly a new concept for me. Never have I seen an entire school section belittle another. You can be proud if you want but i've never felt like anything other than the usual drunk jerks was out of line at the tourney .....until now.
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Re: Shocker fans

Postby Ali » March 6th, 2011, 8:57 pm

I think we all need to grow a little thicker skin around here. If you were offended by CU fans dancing back at UNI that seems a little crazy to me. I think they played it at the 8 minute timeout and the UNI fans had about 3-4 minutes to themselves with the song playing. I'm not sure if it was a 3 or what happened for CU, but their fans were jacked about something like a minute later and they danced right back. It was funny to have a thousand people responding together.

After the game I had quite a few CU fans tell us good game and we talked about how it sucked that we lost Luke. Every team has some jerky fans but I think we can all agree that the vast majority are great.
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Re: Shocker fans

Postby Hail Our Panthers » March 6th, 2011, 10:39 pm

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Re: Shocker fans

Postby DUBulldog » March 6th, 2011, 11:16 pm

Aces1982 wrote:On a side note anyone know how about the fight after the games on Saturday? It was a shocker fan and someone else that I could not tell which fan base. I just know security got there pretty quick as they were knocking people out of the way to get there. It was outside where the buses pick up


It was an Indiana State fan who punched the Wichita State fan. The ISU fan was taken away in handcuffs. He had hit a Drake fan in the arena just a few minutes before (he had dumped a beer on the Drake fan's wife and then hit the guy when he was asked to apologize).
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Re: Shocker fans

Postby Heinro » March 6th, 2011, 11:21 pm

In my honest opinion there is a major difference between taunting during a game and after.

This was my first time seeing the UNI interlude dance, in person,and I was very impressed. I thought it was incredibly neat how every fan participated, even the UNI fans separated from the crowds. I only wish WSU fans would be as creative. But the next time out when Creighton mocked it, I had to laugh. It wasn't disrespectful, they were having fun, and even though it made them all look like they had been drinking like fish, no wonder SIU and CU had some heated fan battles, it was all in good fun.

But beating a fan base down after a loss is flat out intolerable in my opinion. Goes back to treat others as you want to be treated. Even though we all might want to be EU fans because we could be guaranteed seats 3 rows behind our bench, doesn't give you the right to be anything but respectful to them after their game; their team fought hard and lost a close game on a last second shot. A WSU fan taunting a CU fan after a game in which WSU wasn't even involved and when our team hadn't even played yet is just idiocy, talk about setting up some bad karma. I guarantee you there wasn't a single Shocker Saturday night that wanted to hear anything but a respectful good game.
Thoughts and prayers to WSU finding a new conference.
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Re: Shocker fans

Postby Aces1982 » March 6th, 2011, 11:22 pm

Upstanding person??? The guy should be banned from any MVC game for life.
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