CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby pafan » April 2nd, 2011, 9:51 am

I almost guarantee that NCAA will change the rules about the mid court stripe, especially if Pac-10 teams had over and back violations at Oregon. I mean, they have rules on everything else.

How does the ref even see the line to make that call?

And yeah, free throw shooting was a bugaboo. But even with that, Creighton could have ahd a shot if not for the mid court stripe being invisible.
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Postby 3ontheway » April 2nd, 2011, 10:34 am

one play never costs a team the game, agreed, there are hundreds of things that happen in the 40 minutes that, in aggregate, determine the outcome. having said that, when a game happens to come down to the last 20 seconds and your team has the ball in a tie game and there basically is no half court line (which is preposterous and should be a rule violation) and that fact directly leads to you losing the chance to have the advantage of having the last possession with the very,very high likelihood of possibly winning in regulation or at worst going to OT, i think you have a legitimate beef. yes, ay should have had some better court awareness, but trying to sell me on the fact that he does the same thing if there is a normal half court line like every other basketball court i have ever seen or he has ever played on in the thousands of games he's played, i'm not buying that. for those arguing that they would be blaming their pg in this situation had it been your team, i call bs.
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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby jayball » April 2nd, 2011, 10:41 am

Normally i don't like excuses either. There are hundreds of play in a close game that can affect the outcome. If the refs make a bad call or don't make a call on the final possession, that is part of the game. You have to live with it and know that you shouldn't leave it up to the refs to decide the came.

However, in this case I feel completely differently. There is no other court in the country where this type of thing would happen. The court itself doesn't have a clearly visible demarcation line. That is NOT a part of the game of basketball and should not be allowed.

Who knows what the outcome would have been but at least it would have been a legitimate ending. Such a BS court and BS situation.

PS Boise State still has sidelines painted on the field.
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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby AndShock » April 2nd, 2011, 12:14 pm

Aces1982 wrote:The court is horrible but IMO it had nothing to do with the call. The player had zero court awareness. You see players dribbling up top all the time and they never never look down to see where the halfcourt line is. Why? Because they have played 3000 basketball games in their life and know when they are getting close. No. This one is on the player.


Maybe you shouldn't have 3 point lines, free throw lines, or out of bounds lines at your new arena. Everyone on the floor has played 3000 basketball games and knows where the lines are.
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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby AndShock » April 2nd, 2011, 12:16 pm

I was cheering for CU, but I can't help but think this screw job (along with the Iowa State game) is karma for 1.9. Not sure how Altman benefiting from it fits into my karma hypothesis though...
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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby TrueBlueJay » April 2nd, 2011, 12:59 pm

AndShock wrote:I was cheering for CU, but I can't help but think this screw job (along with the Iowa State game) is karma for 1.9. Not sure how Altman benefiting from it fits into my karma hypothesis though...


That has to be a tough one for Shox fans! :huh:
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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby Hail Our Panthers » April 2nd, 2011, 1:06 pm

LMS wrote:If there's a line, I can gaurantee there's no violation. Jays either win or go to OT.


There is a rule and the Oregon court clearly breaks it. Apparently the NCAA doesn't care.

Section 5. Division Line
Art. 1. The division line shall divide the playing court into two equal parts and
shall be formed by extending the center-circle diameter in both directions until
it intersects the sidelines.
Art. 2. Instead of the solid 2-inch line as shown on the court diagram, the
following shall be permissible:
a. A solid 2-inch wide interrupted line; 4 inches, 2-inch break, 4 inches,
2-inch break, etc.
b. Shadow-bordered 2-inch wide line (1/4-inch borders).
Rule 1 / Court and Equipment 31
c. Interrupted 2-inch wide shadow line: 4 inches, 2-inch break, 4 inches,
2-inch break, etc.
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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby Haha » April 2nd, 2011, 2:14 pm

I agree the line needs to be fixed. However in the video I do not see Young looking back or looking for a line. I just see him slowly backing up till he crosses it. Granted the weird court may have attributed to his lack of court awareness but at the same time based on the video I don't see where a line would have helped as he never looked that direction.
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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby Aces1982 » April 2nd, 2011, 2:56 pm

Haha wrote:I agree the line needs to be fixed. However in the video I do not see Young looking back or looking for a line. I just see him slowly backing up till he crosses it. Granted the weird court may have attributed to his lack of court awareness but at the same time based on the video I don't see where a line would have helped as he never looked that direction.



Exactly what i saw. Unless he has eyes in back, a line would have not helped.
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Re: CBI Final - Creighton at Oregon

Postby LJay » April 2nd, 2011, 3:39 pm

You guys must have shat for peripheral vision and likely never played basketball at any level.
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