Will an MVC team make the Final Four in the next 10 years?

[glm38]

It's true though and a very valid point that there just aren't easy games in the Valley and we beat the #*&% out of each other in the tournament and that probably hurts us in the big dance.

I still like our chances of getting a team in the final four over 10 years though. I think the trend has been upward for mid major conferences over the past 10 years. Partly due to the one and done rule. The elite players go to the BCS schools and conferences. But a lot don't stay more than a year or 2. Contrast that with a lot of mid major schools that get good quality players a notch or 2 below NBA standards - but that stay for 4 years.

[Chuck]

The difference is the bottom 5 teams in those 2 conferences don't put up a fight. Every team in the valley has to go to D+, ISUb, and EU even though they are basement dwellers they don't roll over.

Oh no....now we are going to hear from all the Syc fans....

All they have to say is "SCOREBOARD". Having seen multiple of Beatingrillz's post on this site and another, his posts rarely have any sort of intrensic value other than his skewed opinion of every team in the valley not named Missouri State University.

[MSUDuo]

That is a very fair assessment of Weems but with Creek getting his 6th year and the return of Pickens who would have started over Mallet had he not been injured. I have no doubt UNI has pieces to make it work but we all watched Rank last year and he doesn't really inspire fear. As for your recruits, they maybe the best class UNI has ever had that doesn't automatically translate into success especially in the 5 spot.

I apologize to everyone on 'Grillz behalf.

Creek hasn't gotten his 5th year. Quit talking like he has.

Pickens would not have started over Mallet. Have you started drinking already for the 4th?

We have a lot more questions going into the season than UNI does...A ton of unproven D1 players with some solid experience coming back. Anything can happen but you act like all this is certain.


Wouldn't surprise me to see MSU in the play-in game nor would it surprise me to see MSU contend for the title

Duo you know nothing you live in a basement Creek is getting 5th year agreeing to grey shirt you know nothing and Had he never got injured would likely never lost his spot get a job then get in the know your a joke.

Your crow enjoyed rare? Medium? Or burnt to a crisp?

http://blogs.news-leader.com/msu/2011/0 ... er-season/

[Khan4Cats]

Ten years means 40 teams. We would be selling ourselves short if we did believe that there is a fighting chance to get there. If the Colonial and Horizon can do it twice, we should darn well believe that we can at least once in a decade.

Well, no one has done it in the last three decades. And that would include several teams with notable NBA players.

It could happen but its going to take the combination of the right team in terms of skill, depth, experience and being hot at the right time being given the right situation.

I would agree with lose who put it somewhere in the no more than 10% chance range.

[Chuck]

Isnt it amazing Beatingrillz has dissapeared? alot like after coming on Sycamorepride.com, and talking all this crap to Sycamorefans about how Indiana State would be crushed and ISU beat MSU. He just dissapeared, as usual with internet "insiders". As much as this seems as an insult to MSU, it isn't. I respect the hell out of the majority of MSU fans, in fact at the MVC tournament I and Dgreenwell3 shared a beer pitcher at hooters with a great MSU fan, that made some great Creekmore jokes...every fan has good jokes about his own team!

[shockalot]

The factor that has had the biggest impact in allowing non-BCS teams to get to the final four within the last few years is the One-and-Done rule, which has allowed for these teams with very good but mostly non-NBA players with 4 years of D1 experience to compete with the BCS boys who are regularly turning over high talent but are missing out on enough experienced high talent players to always win in the tourney against these "upstarts".
If they change the one-and-done rule this will decrease the odds of a Valley team or any other non-BCS teams getting to the final four.
Furthermore, if the BCS schools decide to break away from the NCAA, what could be called the "nuclear option", it could ruin the whole game for all of us who are devoted to non-BCS athletics, and the question that started this thread will have a completely different meaning and context. If all the rest of the non-BCS schools continue to compete for a national basketball title sans BCSers, then I would expect a Valley team to be in the final four regularly.

[glm38]

The factor that has had the biggest impact in allowing non-BCS teams to get to the final four within the last few years is the One-and-Done rule, which has allowed for these teams with very good but mostly non-NBA players with 4 years of D1 experience to compete with the BCS boys who are regularly turning over high talent but are missing out on enough experienced high talent players to always win in the tourney against these "upstarts".

That sounds familiar?? Didn't someone say almost this exact thing just a few posts up??

[shockalot]

OMG! The same point made again in a thread? That just doesn't ever happen in these forums, does it.
Well, you get an A+ for reading the prior posts. While I didn't, apparently the point needed to be made again as it didn't seem to take. But it shouldn't have happened, I know, because posters never utter the same point again, (and again, and again) in this sports haunt.

[glm38]

OMG! The same point made again in a thread? That just doesn't ever happen in these forums, does it.
Well, you get an A+ for reading the prior posts. While I didn't, apparently the point needed to be made again as it didn't seem to take. But it shouldn't have happened, I know, because posters never utter the same point again, (and again, and again) in this sports haunt.

OMG! Don't get your panties in a wad. Just giving you a hard time. That never happens on these forums either does it?

[panther-state]

Isnt it amazing Beatingrillz has dissapeared? alot like after coming on Sycamorepride.com, and talking all this crap to Sycamorefans about how Indiana State would be crushed and ISU beat MSU. He just dissapeared, as usual with internet "insiders". As much as this seems as an insult to MSU, it isn't. I respect the hell out of the majority of MSU fans, in fact at the MVC tournament I and Dgreenwell3 shared a beer pitcher at hooters with a great MSU fan, that made some great Creekmore jokes...every fan has good jokes about his own team!

I don't think he will be missed...although a forum "idiot" always makes for some fun and laughs. Also just a friendly FYI you keep adding and 's' and missing a 'p' in "disappeared". Sorry to be "that" guy, don't care if you didn't know or just weren't paying attention but I hate spelling errors, even on the internet...which is why I really, really don't like Beatingrillz sometimes