MVC Should Get In on The Alliance

[tribecalledquest]

ISU has a pretty damn good schedule but I'd take one more game in the alliance over Cleveland State etc. Always try harder. We're mad P5s won't play us but refuse to schedule other quality teams. That makes no sense. If we won't schedule other wuskity teams we can be mad P5s won't schedule us.

Agreed. The obsession by MVC and "mid major" fans over playing P5 schools is ridiculous. A lot of good teams out there to play. Get it done. More coaches duck good games, P5 or otherwise, then they would EVER admit to their fans.

Just say publicly "no one will play us" and everyone drinks it up.

[uniftw]

And this alliance further allows coaches and ADs to play the “no one wants to play us” card. It puts it in Mark adams. It shifts everything to him - when the reality is if they are willing to be in the alliance and schedule these games they are admitting they either didn’t try to actually schedule these type of games or weren’t willing to accept it if the potential damage from that game had to come back to them. Now that Adams is in control of these games they can shift all blame away from them if it fails.

[tribecalledquest]

And this alliance further allows coaches and ADs to play the “no one wants to play us” card. It puts it in Mark adams. It shifts everything to him - when the reality is if they are willing to be in the alliance and schedule these games they are admitting they either didn’t try to actually schedule these type of games or weren’t willing to accept it if the potential damage from that game had to come back to them. Now that Adams is in control of these games they can shift all blame away from them if it fails.

Yes.

[Drakey]

you can schedule all the mid majors you want, good or bad, and it won't make any significant difference. The goal of the committee is to keep mid majors out. It might be helpful if the A10, MVC and Mountain West would coordinate schedules so that they would all play each other to fill up most of the non-conference schedule. would save money too.

[VUGrad1314]

Article on possible changes to MTEs.

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2018 ... 19-20-ncaa

[tribecalledquest]

you can schedule all the mid majors you want, good or bad, and it won't make any significant difference. The goal of the committee is to keep mid majors out. It might be helpful if the A10, MVC and Mountain West would coordinate schedules so that they would all play each other to fill up most of the non-conference schedule. would save money too.

So the mid major commissioners, AD's, etc on the committee go along with the goal of keeping mid majors out? Bradley AD Chris Reynolds is going to be on the committee. I'm sure he didn't sign up for that.

[Drakey]

I would guess, without knowing, that the makeup of the committee is such that the P5 conferences are always in the majority. I'm guessing any representation outside those conferences is powerless.

[Jsnhbe1Birds]

I would guess, without knowing, that the makeup of the committee is such that the P5 conferences are always in the majority. I'm guessing any representation outside those conferences is powerless.

It's 6-4 P5

[BEARZ77]

I would guess, without knowing, that the makeup of the committee is such that the P5 conferences are always in the majority. I'm guessing any representation outside those conferences is powerless.

You got it; the % of P-5+1 schools is less than 30% , but the makeup of the committee is usually around 60% or more . Absolutely the first thing that stands out as far as a rigged situation. No way to justify that in any shape or form. Secondly , I've always questioned the monetary distribution of the NCAA Tourney $$$. We all know that it's the money that drives the disproportionate number of at large bids given. The NCAA Tournament is the culmination of a season representing all 300+ D-1 teams ; they all contribute to that product. This isn't pro sports , so why aren't those $$$ distributed equally among all programs after paying the expenses for the participants round to round. Makes no sense and just sets up a rich get richer scenario and the motivation for an inequality in selection process.

Capitalism isn't a great model for college sports to utilize ; the competition is built in and shouldn't be at the extreme as far as the monetary rewards. In capitalism the incentive is to drive the competition out of the market; for someone to make an extreme profit, someone else takes a loss. It's one thing to maximize your own earning potential thru $$$ soley generated by your efforts; theoretically those are infinite.Dollars generated by the collective process of the NCAA membership are finite, and when a individual or group are given disproportionate shares, that creates a competitive disadvantage. That's not what college sports should be about from a monetary perspective at least with the funds derived from the collective process. It sets up as we have now in d-1 athletics, just as we do in society, a caste system in the extreme.

[Red]

I would guess, without knowing, that the makeup of the committee is such that the P5 conferences are always in the majority. I'm guessing any representation outside those conferences is powerless.

You got it; the % of P-5+1 schools is less than 30% , but the makeup of the committee is usually around 60% or more . Absolutely the first thing that stands out as far as a rigged situation. No way to justify that in any shape or form. Secondly , I've always questioned the monetary distribution of the NCAA Tourney $$$. We all know that it's the money that drives the disproportionate number of at large bids given. The NCAA Tournament is the culmination of a season representing all 300+ D-1 teams ; they all contribute to that product. This isn't pro sports , so why aren't those $$$ distributed equally among all programs after paying the expenses for the participants round to round. Makes no sense and just sets up a rich get richer scenario and the motivation for an inequality in selection process.

The money distributed is from the TV tournament contract. It's not a season long contract that you can argue all teams share equally in. And frankly the basketball tournament money earned by the football leagues is a drop in the bucket to what their real TV revenue is. Unfortunately to us, it's a huge financial boon when a school like Loyola goes on a run like they did.